Capturing High Definition, Scene Detection

I've captured some High Definition material and found FCE separates it into clips divided at the point the camera was stopped and started when the original recording was made. This left me with some 250 clips from a 36 minute recording.
This is described as a 'feature' of capturing High Definition recordings in my instruction book. It does not seem to be a feature that can be turned off. Is that the case ?
One way to deal with this seems to be to highlight all the clips and then drag them on to the time line.
Paul Bishop

My style of shooting owes much to making Wedding Videos back in 1985 on VHS. At that time it was either VHS or very expensive professional formats which were not economic. VHS looks appalling if edited on a linear system (all that was available then) so the Video I shot on the day was the video the couple got. I've been using linear and then non-linear systems since 1991 and having now got into Final Cut I am gradually changing style.
I take it I cannot switch off scene detection if capturing High Definition video ?
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I am having problems getting rid of excess video from FCE. What is the best way to actually get the stuff I don't need off the system and out of the computer?. The losslessnes of FCE is causing me problems.
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I will try to keep this simple. Here's some background on what I am trying to accomplish. I shoot sporting events for recruitment videos. During the games I start and stop recording on each play. So at the end of the day I end up with 100+ clips for each game/match. During capture I need my software to be able to detect each scene which saves me valuable time in post. I can quickly scrub each clip and decide what to dump. I shoot in HD(HDV) because the resolution allows me to do much more during post.
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