Capturing OnLocation to a SAN drive

Is anyone capturing through OnLocation to a network drive under a SAN?
I'm talking SAN, Storage Area Networking like Fibre or iSCSI, and not NAS, Network Attached Storage like some cheap ethernet box.
Why do I ask this? I recon that this may be the best forum to launch into some network storage issues when recording in a studio or at an event.
Kevan

Kevan
Any luck on this subject. I want to use a raid server to capture approx 20+ hrs of video for a dance competition with the ability to use the server to copy files and produce DVD's on site for my customers. Others in the industry use OnLocation but do not produce on site.
Thanks

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Where are you storing your media? Your captured footage?
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As SAN setup is a common storage setup for all the applications/systems of an enterprise. It might have some maintance issues ..which might impact our essbase environment.
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When capturing to an external firewire drive that will also be used to edit the video, what do I need to set in the Scratch Disk window? Just the scratch disk? Do I need to also set the waveform cache? thumbnail cache? autosave vault?
Thanks.

Depends on your overall configuration/workflow...but I'll usually set my external for Video Capture/Video Render/Audio Render. Then both cache files to my system drive and my Autosave Vault to the external...unless I have an additional internal or second external. I keep my Project files on the system/startup drive.
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Hi, first off, a little on the devices...
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Powerbook G4
Mac OS 10.4.5
1 GB RAM
80 GB HDD
Final Cut Studio 5.0.4
Camera:
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a) Did I get my definition of a bus right?
b) Is it true that the Powerbook only has a single bus controlling all FireWire interfaces?
c) Is that a standard thing? Or does a Powermac G5 have independent busses?
d) Is it really true that connecting a 200 Mbps DV camera to the computer will slow down even FW800 to 200Mbps?
e) Is there any way I can use Firewire 800 to capture or am I relegated to USB for the rest of my capturing life?
Thank you in advance for your help!
Powerbook G4 Mac OS X (10.4.5)

"USB 2.0 has higher burst rates than Firewire, but it doesnt have what's called Isochronous Transactions. Isochronous Transactions are a reserved bandwidth data transmission mechanism. They provide a guaranteed rate of delivery with a guaranteed latency. This is necessary in a video stream environment. No one here has ever reported success with a USB drive."
and:
Now although USB 2.0 seems to be a lot faster than Firewire (480 megabits per second vs 400 megabits per second), it is only burst speed; the rate at which data can be transferred for a short period of time. Burst speed are generally higher than sustained speeds. Firewire on the other has transfer rates at sustained speed; the rate at which data can be transferred continuously. This is due to the difference in the chip design. This is also why Firewire is preferred when it comes to high speed peripherals like camcorders, digital cameras or hard disks.
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Capturing to second external hard drive..

I have recently been watching some tutorials on www.lynda.com and I was told that I should really capture all my footage to a secondary HD. I have an iMac with one 800 firewire port. I was told to get a firewire drive but having this connected will leave me nowhere to plug my cameras firewire cable in to for capturing. Am I OK just buying a cable splitter for the back of my Mac or do I connect the camera to the secondary HD? I'm thinking the second option wouldn't work so just wanted to ask the question before I go buying.
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Gav

G'Day Gav,
The tuts are correct.
One additional thing not mentioned is the drive format.
Most drive comes pre-formatted to suit PC machines which will cause greif on your Mac sooner or later. Check that the drive is formatted to Mac OS Extended before any capture begins.
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