Capturing raw audio from MiniDV tape

I am relatively new to the Mac. I would like to extract the stereo audio from some Sony MiniDV tapes in the most economical way possible. If it can be done in iMovie or Garageband, I haven't been able to figure it out. I want to get to MP3 (or similar) as an end state, but I am starting with .DV files. Any ideas? Thanks in advance!

iMovie '08 may not support this, but iMovie 6 does (and is a free download for '08 users). Add your footage to the timeline, select them, then pick extract audio. iMovie will make an audio only copy of the footage and the files are stored in the project's media folder (right click the project and pick "show package contents" to see the folder structure.
Patrick

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unable to capture HD video from miniDV tape
When I connect my Sony HDR-HC3 miniDV HDV camcorder to my iMac via firewire cable and use Final Cut Express to capture the video from the tape, I do not get a Capture window that allows me to specify in and out points, I just get a playback window that immediately starts capturing and the only option I have in this window is hit ESC to stop capturing. If I let this capture window continue to capture the video from the camera with miniDV HD tape, then the entire tape would be captured as one massive single video clip.
QUESTION: Is there something I change or do to make the proper capture window appear where I can specify in and out points to capture from tape for each clip?
NOTE: using same camera and tape with iMovie with automatic capture enabled, all the clips get captured properly. I also tried to use the manual setting in iMovie and it worked too.
More details(read only if you want more information)
I have a several miniDV tapes containing HD video created on a Sony Sony HDR-HC5 and Sony HDR-HC7. Unfortunately, both these camera were stolen, and I have since moved to a camera that uses flash memory, not tape. However, I need to get the video footage off these tapes, so I bought a used Sony HDR-HC3, it plays the HD miniDV tapes just fine and iMovie reads the video from this camera just fine, but Final Cut Express does not.
When I setup Final Cut Express, I used the Easy Setup and specified:
Format: HD
Rate: 29.97 fps
Use: HDV-Apple Intermediate Codec 1080i60
These setting match those of the camera and recorded tape. If I use any other settings but these, then Final Cut Express never sees the camera and never opens any capture window at all. Using Quicktime 10 movie inspector on the clips captured by iMovie from same camera, all the clips match this setting too.
Final Cut Express version 4.0.1
iMovie 09 Version 8.0.2 (821)
iMac 2.93 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo with 4GB 1067 MHz DDR3 running
Mac OS X Version 10.6.4
My Final Cut Express scratch disk is a Seagate 2TB external USB 2.0 Hard Drive that has been formatted to be Mac OS Extended (Journaled). This external disk is also where iMovie successfully captured all the video from the same camera.

Thanks for the answer. It makes me sad. I thought using Final Cut Express would be an upgrade to a more robust editing system from iMovie, yet iMovie does a superior job of logging and capturing video from HDV video on miniDV tape in comparison to FCE. Not only does iMovie capture each clip on the tape into it's own video file automatically, it also includes timestamp information in the filename indicating when the clip was originally recorded, which appears to be something that is missing from Final Cut Express. Now I realize that HDV miniDV cameras had a relatively short life span in the consumer marketplace and have since all been replaced by flash and hard drive based AVCHD cameras, but from circa 2004 to 2007, miniDV HDV camcorders were very popular and I am sure there are lots of consumers that must be super frustrated by Final Cut Express limited ability to log and capture clips properly from these cameras.
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Hello, I am trying to capture some audio-only beta tapes and having trouble. The deck is all hooked up correctly (deck to IO box to mac), and I followed the manual instructions on how to create an audio only capture setting. When I go to capture the audio, I can hear the audio playing and it says "now capturing", but when it stops I get an error saying "Final cut was unable to read the movie file just captured." Is anyone familiar with this kind of problem? Let me know if you need anymore information about my settings (unfortunately I am relatively new to final cut).
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Mike

Try this (no guarantees but it used to work): Go into your scratch disk settings and enable "capture video and audio to separate files." Wasn't consistently a problem, but when it was, this solved it. But I used to get the error when tried to initiate the audio only capture. Be sure and turn this off before you capture video and audio.
Also, what happens if you try and capture video and audio of the same section? You can always just export the audio and then delete the capture.

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Good afternoon,
I have a bunch final cuts of family movies that I stored on miniDV tape. I would like to import these onto my Mac, but when I do so in iMovie I lose all the edits. Basically, iMovie imports the movie as separate clips.
Is there a way to simply import the final film and leave it as just that, the final film, sound and all?
Thanks for any thoughts on this.
Cheers,
John

Hi
There are bit's here I do not understand.
You've got miniDV tapes.
With "final cut's" = final edited movies ?
a. There are several Video editing programs - some named so that one might think they were related as iMovie 1 to HD 6 ---- iMovie'08 to 11 ---- and iMovie'13 (version 10).
b. There are no Common Video editing language/system - so if one edited in FinalCut - there is no way to get an editable version over to iMovie 1 to HD6 - oor other way around. There are some rudimentary Export functions that move the un-edited raw material between (sometimes) but no transitions, texts extra Audio etc etc are progressed over. This goes for Adobe Premiere and Avid Media-100 too.
c. If You have a playable (edited) version on tape - then tool of choise is iMovie HD 6 as it can import movie as a full block (not splitt in individual clips) - FinalCut are not so easy to get to do this. iMovie'08 to 11 are not meant for interlaced video (as on Your tape = loses every second line when You try to create a new projeect or Export from them)
So as You see - my fantsy is limited - Please tell exactly what You've got on Your tapes - if TimeCode is broken or continuos without any dropped frames (flicker of black, no sound) (this happens if one record - then take a look at the sequence - but forgot to set Camera to find end of sequense to link to next recorded sequence) - If timecode is broken - it has to be handled in a special way.
And - tell exactly what You want to do with the material - when successfully in Your Mac again.
Yours Bengt W

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Hi folks, I used to have the older 2008 iMac which had an audio IN socket and also the audio OUT, but the new iMac I bought at the start of this year only has the Headphones socket, which apparently is supposed to also act as the Audio In, However I've never been able to get it to work and noticed some people online suggesting a Griffin or a Berringher device at around £30?...
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Hello All,
I have a older Sony TC-D5 tape recorder (the sound recording is still extremely good and, in fact, much better than any of my digital camcorders at 16bit). My question is: how can I get this into FCE4? The TC-D5 has a left and right RCA audio out plugs. If I plug that into the external mic connection in my intel iMac will FCE4 recognize this as an audio source? Is there some other way I'm not thinking of?
Thanks for your help.
Mike

Hi Ian, Martin and Michael
If I understand you, you'd like to shoot sound with your TC-D5, and Video with your Canon HV20 - Correct?
If so, I suppose you're getting better audio quality with the AKG and Tape set up. Of course you'd be limited to shooting where there's AC Power available and logistics with your set up.
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Good to see you both again Martin and Ian!
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Does FCPX still import video from MiniDV tape?

I just went from Snow Leopard to Lion and now my trusty old FCP 6 will not install. Apple says they're sorry but there's nothing they can do to help.
So...I'm nervous about FCPX but am willing to learn if it will still import video from my DV deck from tape. Also, does FCPX do automatic logging and batch capturing from tape like FCP 6 did? I appreciate any advice.

***** that Rosetta is no longer part of Lion and you can't install PowerPC programs.
I have created partitions on my hard drive and left enough space on one partition to keep Snow Leapard and I have about 3 apps on that partition that are not compatible with Lion and reboot in SL to use those apps.
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Long workarounds to simple soulutions from the past.
I have FCP7, so I don't have to reboot in SL.
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Ha ha, Apple blocked me from saying S u c k s.

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1.) I assume that when, in Edit Mode, you click on Titles, you open up the Title Templates, and can find the Canvas_frame. Is this correct?
2.) I assume that you have an empty Video (2, or 3) above the Clip, over which you wish to place this Title. Is that correct?
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