Capturing Timecode during Live Recording

Ok, I am recording a live show.. to a DSR-45 and simultaneously want to digitize the footage with timecode.
I've been avoiding headaches by recording in "non-controllable" device mode, but now would like to figure this out.
If i put the Record mode into FirewireNTSC i can see the footage and see the timecode in my FCP Record Window Pane but when i hit the "Record Now" button i get about 2 seconds of footage then an alert message... "End of Tape reached".
I am using my Laptop for this process. Not sure if a full blown Desktop Mac with a Kona 3 would work in this "pass through" mode of recording.
Is there a way for this to work on a Laptop?

If you are capturing a live feed, you need to use 'non-controllable device' and 'capture now'. In this situation - there is no external timecode .
The file will generate it's own TC based on 0:00:00:00 as the beginning of the file.
If you need to correlate the live capture to the tape (if you ran one) later, auxiliary TC can be used.
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