Capturing to DVD Recorder, etc...

I was wondering if this is a viable option for capturing my videos to my project. I have so much problem with dropped frames when capturing via FCP and so I would like to capture the footages straight to my DVD recorder (at the highest rec quality, of course) then I rip that into my computer (then convert Video_TS folder into DV, whereby I then import it into my project in FCP). Has anyone done that before? It's a little longer process and sacrificing some blank DVDs but 100% no dropped frames, for sure, with that route. However, I was wondering if I would also sacrifice the quality of the clips when it finally arrives at FCP?
Note: My External HD is probably my problem for "dropped frames"

Yes, they're 7200s but I think they need to be initialized. I've had them for a year and really took the mileage out of 'em. One of them is giving me problems - doesn't mount sometimes when computer boots on. Unfortunately, that's the one I'm using most of the time (LaCie 1T). Would initializing it with Disk Utility good enough or am I looking at another repairing software to do this?

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Recording fios tv to DVD recorder with tivo/fios cablecard

ok this post is for my dad....and if ur thinking why the hack does he want a dvd recorder when they already have a tivo...don't ask my dad is kinda weird he still "tapes" shows on VHS tapes using vcr, and tapes radio shows on cassettes....then again he also still pyas his bills with a pen, a check and the us postal service.....
anyway, I didn't know much about the world of dvd recorders before a couple days ago, so I have a few questions before and if I actually decide to get him one.
Question 1: we currently have an HD TV with an HD tivo connected and a multistream verizon fios cablecard. My question is regarding copyright limitations....what prevents you from just recording any tv program onto dvd, as you still can onto a VHS? and what percentage of the channels/shows have this protection? like would he only be able to record from the original 12 or so broadcast channels? this is my main concern....he watched a lot of the sports channels like espn espn2 golf channel nbatv etc....
Question 2: also, when doing my research I thought of another benefit a dvd recorder may have. I have been putting all the family home videos which are on vhs onto dvd, but it's a bit of a process. I use an external usb capture device made by Hauppage hooked up to the VCR then the computer captures it realtime and generates an mpeg video file on my hard drive, THEN I have to spend the 1 or 2 hours it takes to convert to DVD format and burn with Nero so it can be played on a regular DVD player......so....question being....
can a standalone DVD recorder hook up to a VCR to transfer video direct to a DVD, or do you have to buy a DVD recorder with a built in VHS deck?
Question 3: oh and someone once told me that you can only play the recorded DVD's on the recorder, and not other regular DVD players...I couldn't believe this was actually true...but was he right?
TIA!

Answers:
Question 1: if the DVD recorder is connected to the TIVO there shouldn't be anything prohibiting him from recording. The signal sent out from the TIVO is an unencrypted feed that can be processed by anything (TV, VCR, DVD recorder, ETC). As long as theres no restrictions within the DVD recorder itself, you should be fine to record anything. This also means you have to record realtime (press play on TIVO and record on the DVD recorder and wait the amount of time for the event to end before pressing stop)
Question 2: You would need to talk to the tech support for your DVD recorder. Its going to depend on what types of video streams and formats it will accept as a source
Question 3nce again this is a question for the DVD recorder tech support, not Verizon. It depends on the file format that the recorder saevs the file as. Not only that, but different players also can read different formats. So you have to take a look at the recorder and the dvd play back device
Anthony_VZ
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JVC - DV/HDD/DVD recorder deck not capturing

When I capture it looks like it's working, then it doesn't even have a file. I have tried batch, clip and now captures, no luck.
Sometimes I get an unknown file error or an "unable to read the moview file just captured" error. I have tried the QT library reset, no luck. Of course Apple wants $200 for a support guy to tell me that they don't recognize this great deck.
Does anyone have any other experiences? Any advice? I have $1500 in the JVC RM-SDR049U deck. I have worn cameras out before and I don't want to use them anymore to run mini-dv tapes.

A few thoughts:
1) Is the deck turned on before you fire up FC?
2) Is there a particular deck setting you need to have .. ie L1, F1 etc that tells it to recognize the firewire port you're using ... my JVC dual deck has to be set to F1 when using the front firewire port
3) Does the deck have some kind of dubb function that would, say, allow you to dubb from the DV to DVD Recorder side ... is this set properly? In other words, your not going from DVD to DV
All of these function should be properly set before you fire up FC and the Capture window. Just a few things to consider; good luck

Premere CC Capture settings with Pinnacle Dazzle HD DVD Recorder

Can I use the Pinnacle Dazzle HD DVD Recorder to transfer my old DV tape to Premiere CC to edit?
I see a dazzle in the drop down capture window, but nothing comes in the capture window when I play back the video,
the same thing happens with old VHS tape.
I am using Windows 8.1

Found an old thread from when I was setting up this computer for this a few months back ... for a "modern" Windows (7/8) you need a Firewire 800 port on the computer, the 9-pin squarish-rectangle one, not the earlier 6-pin narrow horizontal port with a v-out on one side. The cameras nearly all have the little " iLink" style receptacle, a small 4-pin metal fitting with a small divot in the middle of one long side. You need a 4-pin to 9-pin cord to connect to the computer, and putting any combo involving a 6-pin plug & adapters will not work. There's a little Vantec PCIe card from Newegg I got that had the right connection and installed easily, for $34 USD.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815287011
This worked perfectly as soon as I had the correct cord ... 4-pin to 9-pin.
However, someone else showed how to work through Window's arcane system to get to a Legacy Driver option ... and once I'd rolled back the Firewire controller to the Legacy driver, any old cord would work to either the 6-pin Firewire 400 or 9-pin Firewire 800 port.
Legacy driver is found in Win7 through:
Control Panel/Device Manager/IEE1394 Bus Host Controllers/Properties/Driver/Rollback Driver/ and a couple other steps. But just for you ... I found the Windows 8 page from Microsoft on how to get legacy IEE1394 drivers that should help you:
I hope in all the above data-dumping you'll find what you need to get this working.
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VHS - DVD Recorder - PC - Premiere Pro CS6: Workflow Questions

Hello,
I hope I have this posted in the correct place. I am seeking advice and suggestions for VHS tape to digital transfers. Here is my current workflow:
VHS tape is played back on a Panasonic PV-D4744S VCR and is recorded directly (via composite A/V cable) to a Panasonic DMR-ES40V DVD recorder and onto a DVD-R, -RW, or +RW.
The disc is then copied into a Windows 7 folder with all of the contents of its VIDEO_TS folder intact; this folder is saved on several external hard drives for safe keeping.
I then open and import a copy of the .vob files into Premiere Pro CS6, where I minimally scale the video to eliminate the distortions (“VHS tearing”) on the sides and bottom of the VHS source video. The result is a very clear video which fits perfectly in a 4:3 project window on my 16:9 HD computer screen with minimal pillarboxing.
It is at the stage of export where I am stuck.
The final DVDs are going to be viewed on a 16:9 widescreen TV, as well as on an iMac computer. I’ve read all much about interlaced scanning (VHS, Laserdisc, TV) and progressive scanning (computer, LCD TVs), but I’m still not sure if I can make a DVD which will look proper on both TVs and computers. In addition to the scaling, I am using Premiere to add chapter makers and poster frames to the video, which I wish to then export to either Encore CS6 or NeroVision – I love Nero’s animated 2D and 3D menu selections. What export settings should I use in Premiere which are closest to the original, imported .vob files? I’ve exported some test videos in MPEG2-DVD format to folders, but they are huge compared to the original DVDs made on the standalone recorder, i.e., 12.8GB on Premiere export compared to the 4.7GB import.
Are there settings to make the Premiere export as close to the original DVD import of 4.7GB without sacrificing quality? Should I simply import the sequence into Encore as a timeline and let it perform the heavy lifting of automatically compressing the files to fit on a 4.7GB DVD? NeroVision seems to not accept the MPEG2-DVD files; it “sees” only the .m2v video files and not the .wav audio files.
In a nutshell:
I want to take a raw DVD-R (or -RW, +RW) recorded on a standalone and copy to hard drive, add chapter markers and minimal scaling in Premiere Pro CS6, then export and burn a DVD that will look good on both a 16:9 TV and computer screen.
I'm trying to get this project finished for a soon upcoming family get together. Any suggestions, tips, and general advice would be greatly appreciated.
Eric

Hi Eric,
The issue I would have with the workflow is that DVD is heavily compressed for delivery - not meant for re-compressing again. You're re-compressing a file that's already been compressed as small as can be. Most DVD recorders have different quality settings, like 1 hour, 2 hours, 4 hours. Use the 1 hour mode on the DVD recorder to get the "best" quality source if you must re-edit the stuff. The typical workflow would be to have some sort of capture device on the computer that records a larger, less compressed file to begin with.
As for export from Adobe using Media Encoder, choose "MPEG-2 DVD" of course, and select "NTSC DV" for the preset. Under the VIDEO tab, you'll need to adjust the encoding bitrate according to the video length. A good rule of thumb is to use 560/minutes=bitrate, and I will round down a touch for safety margin. This assumes Dolby Digital audio on the DVD (AME exports .wav audio and Encore converts to Dolby). Note that most folks don't go over 7 or 8, for best compatibility (the max limit is a bit higher, but quality of VHS source is not going to get any better anyway at higher rates, GIGO).
Regarding audio for the DVD, could be that Nero expects ONE file with audio and video. In AME, look under MULTIPLEXING and change from NONE to DVD, this will combine them. Then under AUDIO, choose DOLBY or maybe MPEG will work for you. Use a 192k bitrate for audio if going that route.
Note sure what you meant about the 16:9 screen - would recommend against putting the 4:3 source material into a 16:9 sequence in Premiere in you are, this will do more harm than good. Stay with 4:3 throughout, including the DVD creation - the DVD player and TV ought to know what to do with it. You're actually REDUCING the resolution if you use a 16:9 workflow. Note that if you encode a 16:9 DVD using 4:3 material in the 16:9 frame, and then play that DVD on a 4:3 TV, bad news - it gets letterboxed AND pillarboxed and you end up with a small video surround by black on all sides. Not cool.
I'd stick with interlaced - if you deinterlace the footage at any point, you are essentially throwing away HALF the resolution, which is weak to start with for SD. Most software players will have Preferences settings to let you tweak the playback/deinterlacing at that point, and TVs will handle it fine.
PS - if you use Encore, then just export the .m2v and .wav files using Media Encoder, import both to Encore, and Encore then does NOT recompress the video any further (as long as it fits), only the audio gets the Dolby conversion. Do NOT use Multiplexed files in Encore.
Hope this is all helpful
Jeff Pulera
Safe Harbor Computers

Professional DVD Recorder for FCP??

Is there a pro DVD recorder/player that can be controlled like a deck (9-pin/FW or both) for input and output of Final Cut Pro? I often need to capture offline clips of sports events that are 3 to 4 hours long. I've been using Amerisoft's DVD ripper, but I have to capture the each long title of the DVD and I only need a few seconds at a time. Setting up output and doing crash records to Dbeta or similar is also quite laborsome. It would be nice to be able to control a DVD player within FCP and capture the clips like you can from a tape.
Thanks in advance,
Eddie

Is there a pro DVD recorder/player that can be controlled like a deck (9-pin/FW or both) for input and output of Final Cut Pro?
No....no such thing exists.
Why are the sports events master footage on DVD?
With MPEG STREAMCLIP you can mark IN and OUT points and import only what you want.
Shane

Connecting iMac to Panasonic DVD Recorder

I need to connect my new iMac to my Panasonic DVD Recorder, which only has 3-RCA input. I tried it via connecting the iMac to my HDVT and then from the TV to the DVD Recorder , but that did not work. Is there a way to connect the iMac to the DVD Recorder? With my Windows Notebook it's no problem at all. I want to record movies from a German TV Station, that streams via FlashVideo.

I assume you are trying to send the signal from iMac to DVD recorder, not the other way, although it is not entirely clear.
The Mini DisplayPort does not provide a signal for composite output. Therefore, there is no simple adapter that will output to an RCA connection.
Maybe you can find a way to capture the stream directly and bypass the need for the DVD recorder.

Standalone DVD recorder as converter

I'm tired of looping through my camera every time I want to output something to tape. I'd like to have a capture stream and a playout stream set up all of the time to minimize setup time. Is anyone out there using a standalone DVD recorder as a converter / recorder? My Sony RDR-GX315 is not recognized by Final Cut.
pb g4 Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Not exactly sure what the poster wants to do with the DVD recorder but here is my experience:
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At the studio, I have an older Panasonic DVD Recorder. I go FW out of the G4s to the deck directly and can monitor and record with very little probs. Again, I find if I export to QT movie first and play that into the Panny, it works very well. Also works great for passing thru to the NTSC monitors.
The other day, due to some gear being in the field, I tried passing a VHS deck thru the Panasonic to the puter ... that did not work so well.

DVD Recorder Play Back of JPEG Images enhanced using PSE 2.0

I recently purchased a HDD DVD Recorder but am having difficulty playing back JPEG still photo images contained in CD-Rs produced on a PC (Operating system XP SP2). Images are all collectively revealed in thumbnail form in the Picture View but only those individual images that have NOT been PSE 2.0 enhanced (e.g. improved contrast, cloning etc.) can be expanded to full screen view. In the case of the others, the following message is displayed : Can not be played on this unit. All images play back successfully on DVD/ CD drives of original PC.
The only solution I have found is to open & save to MS Paint (stripping out hidden data ??) before burning to CD. However, this is laborious and reduces resolution.
Any other suggestions welcomed.

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I connected my Ipad 2 to the TV by the HDMI cable. I can see mp4 videos stored in my Ipad but I cannot record them on the DVD recorder which is connected to the TV by a SCART connection. In which way can I store my videos avoiding to fill the Ipad memory?

Is it possible to record videos stored in Ipad2 on a DVD recorder or external HDD?

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MacBook Pro Won't Read a DVD+R (RW) Created on a Panasonic DVD Recorder

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I recently used a DVD Recorder to transfer VHS tapes to DVDs. The disks (DVD+R RW) read fine on the video recorder and other dvd playback units, but won't open on my MacBook Pro. I keep getting the screen that asks me to format. Is this a problem with my MacBook? I'd like to edit these DVDs. Can I do that?
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Chris

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FCE or DVD recorder?

This may not exactly be a FCE only question but I get great help from you all in here and I am learning the ropes on FCE and transferring vhs to DVD.
My question is this.
If I want to make an exact replica of a vhs tape, am I better off just using a vhs/DVD recorder combo and just copying the vhs directly to DVD? Or is there a benefit to using FCE?
I have begun the process of transferring old VHS tapes to DVD and am starting to wonder if the lengthy process of using FCE to capture the video then use TOAST to burn the DVD is worth it. I also wonder if the video quality would be better/same or worse if I just used the DVD recorder?
I don't know enough about capturing and transferring analogue video into DV to know whether or not it loses any image quality in the process, that is why I'm wondering about using the DVD recorder option vs. FCE.
Again, I realize this isn't FCE specific so I hope I don't offend anyone by placing this question in here but I appreciate any help/advice you have to offer.
Thanks,
Ehren

OK, the quality going from the tape player to DVD was as good as could be expected. I doubt anyone could tell the difference viewing the DVD vs. the original footage.
BUT -
If you are thinking that at some time you are going to want to edit this material, *than do not, repeat, do not convert it to DVD first. You are opening up a giant bag of hurt to do so.* Continue on with the method you are currently using to ingest the footage to FCE, and save those ingested files on an external drive to edit later. Make a copy of your external drive so in case something happens to the first external, you have a backup copy.
Going to DVD and then attempting to reconvert the video from the DVD is a time consuming and video degrading process - if you intend to edit, I repeat, do not go to DVD first. When you go to DVD, you are converting the video to an MPEG format, and MPEG is for delivery, not editing. The fundamental structure of the video gets changed, and when you try to back the other way - from DVD to a format you can edit in FCE, you will see the effect of the conversion.
Your other option is to do both methods - dub the tapes to a DVD recorder to make quick DVD copies, then at your leisure ingest your tapes into FCE.
I did not rip the footage to make the duplicate DVDs, I just let Toast make a disc image and then make copies from the disc image to other DVDs. The DVD was never converted, it was just copied.
Hope this helps -
MtD

I need help with the Pinnacle Dazzle DVD recording software. Please help :D

I have recently bought a Platinum Pinnacle Dazzle DVD Recorder, this device allows me to record gameplay from my PS3 and put it onto my iMac (Capture Card) I nought the Windows version of the software and I need the iMac compatible one but I don't want to go into the shop and spend another £50 on it when I already have the Hardware. Does anyone use Dazzle too? To record their gameplay.
All I need is a Dazzle DVC100 Driver to help run the hardware. I have it connected and it all works, just need to view it on my iMac now. Any advice?
If all else fails, i'll just have to go and buy an iMac compatible one.
Also, what software would you recommend for editing, I intend on making a Montage (A video clip of my best gameplay on Modern Warfare 2 with some nice editing)
P.S. I'm only new to this, but I am 16, and I have an A in my GCSE ICT, so I know a good bit about computers.

Of course iMovie is basic, it is aimed at the home and casual user who wants to put holidays and the kid's birthday party on to a DVD and send it to Grandma. It certainly comes with more transition effects than I would ever use.
Why?
Go watch a major, big budget film. Do you see a transition everytime the scene changes?
No. It is 99.9% hard cuts.
Movie making is about telling a story, not bombarding the audience with twirling "effects". They will soon get bored or irritated with that and never watch it again.
Now, if you want something more advanced, start with [Final Cut Express|http://www.apple.com/finalcutexpress> and when you are ready, move up to the [Studio|http://www.apple.com/finalcutstudio> version. Both have plenty of transitions and there are thousands of plugins available. I don't use most of those either -the interesting tools are those for color correction, keying and compositing. Those are what makes the finished product look polished.

DVD Recorder & Editing in FCP Express

I would like to buy a DVD recorder to record local programs etc on TV.
And then I would like to edit in FCP.
Any suggestions on an inexpensive DVD recorder?
Thank you.

You will have to be careful here, on a number of fronts.
First, broadcast programs are for the most part copyrighted material. It's one thing to record a broadcast for the purpose of viewing the program at another time. It's another thing to record for the purpose of incorporating the copyrighted material into your own work.
Second, DVD recorders come with all sorts of capabilities and limitations, especially the cheap ones (say, the $99 noname specials at your local chain store). There have been problems with them not finalizing the DVDs properly, recording only in VR mode, or somehow else locked to the specific recorder. I'd suggest staying with a known brand - Sony, JVC, Pioneer, etc. (and not the bottom of the line models, either).
I'd also suggest not using DVD+/-RW media. Stick with a good brand of DVD-R or DVD+R media whichever your recorder supports.

PLAYING TIMELINE TO STAND ALONE DVD RECORDER VIA FIREWIRE

Hi,
i have read that you can play out a timeline to a DVD Recroder through the Firewire input of the DVD Recorder.
Pretty handy for quick client DVD which dont need fancy menus.
Anyone know of a good DVD Recorder to go for?
Thanks,
Jamie

Not all Firewire equipped DVD recorders will accept a FW signal from your computer, but fortunately, some will. No one that I'm aware of can say with any certainty which models will and which won't. Its kind of a hit-or-miss type of thing.
The one I have does work ... a Pioneer DVR-533H-S. FCP even recognizes it as a DV device so I can capture from it as well as do a Print-to-Video. A friend purchased another Pioneer model that didn't work. Go figure.
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