Capturing to second external hard drive..

I have recently been watching some tutorials on www.lynda.com and I was told that I should really capture all my footage to a secondary HD. I have an iMac with one 800 firewire port. I was told to get a firewire drive but having this connected will leave me nowhere to plug my cameras firewire cable in to for capturing. Am I OK just buying a cable splitter for the back of my Mac or do I connect the camera to the secondary HD? I'm thinking the second option wouldn't work so just wanted to ask the question before I go buying.
Many thanks
Gav

G'Day Gav,
The tuts are correct.
One additional thing not mentioned is the drive format.
Most drive comes pre-formatted to suit PC machines which will cause greif on your Mac sooner or later. Check that the drive is formatted to Mac OS Extended before any capture begins.
It's as easy as connecting the drive (firewire) to your Mac and opening Applications>Utilities>Disc Utility.
Click the external's icon then select the ERASE tab. You can select MacOSExtended or Journaled, either is OK. I prefer no Journaling.
Give it a jazzy NAME in the Name field.
There is *Security Options*; this is for selecting how thoroughly old data is removed. I prefer Zero Out Data. Hit OK on your choice.
Click the ERASE button then ERASE and wait. Don't worry if it takes an hour or two or more depending on which Security Option was selected and how large the drive.
After a coffee or two you are good to go.
Al

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• connect the camera directly to the firewire port of the computer
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• shut down the camera and computer
• disconnect the camera and reconnect the external hard drive(s)
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