Card Cooling

What is a better way to cool a video card?
When it's really hot, like today, and the room temp is at 95F or above I have problems.
Yes, I don't have AC. :]
My Geforce 4 card just gets too dam hot and I get dumped back to Windows after a couple minutes of playing games, any games. :(
I have plenty of case cooling, four fans in an Antec SX830 case.
I use a CoolerMaster Heatpipe unit on the CPU, never reaches 50C even on a day like today.
I have come to the conclution it has to be my Geforce 4 and I need an idea on how to keep that sucker at a usable temp.

Well, my friend,
first i want to know if are oc your card or running at stock speed. Well if you are not oc, i will give some advices that have proven to be good for me:
First: you can replace the cooler in your card with one which don't use more than one pci slot, or better, if you can adapt a new 70 mm fan to your card's cooler it's better.
Second: i have tried this and had very good results; i have a GF3 Ti200 and i put a AMD Stock Heatsink with fan in the rear, I use cheap thermal paste (don't want to have conductivity in the traces...) and since i was afraid for the sink, i use in the for corner a very little drop of super glue, just to be sure, if i want to remove that is fairly simple.
But this one can't be done if your card has tiny resistors or bridges in the back, the heatsink will never contact on the hot surface, besides you will risk to crush one of these bridges and voilá a useless card with all the consequences which nobody of us all wants to imagine
But if you want to be extreme think extreme: Watercooling or in this case a better solution if you know how to install that properly.
Well, check your PSU and memory, they can be the reason of this strange behaviour, i said they CAN BE....
Greetings and good luck!! :]
Maestro
AMD Athlon XP 1800+ @ 2100+ only with FSB oc, MSI KT3 Ultra ARU- Vcore at 2.00 v (mod), GF3 Ti200 oc 220/510, 256 mb Cheap ddr 266 memory (since i live in costa rica it's hard to find good memory...) and i'm italian

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-) bought an inspire 6. surround system and even replaced my audigy with version 2 for it. but unfortunately the subwoofer had a problem. it randomly made a popping noise which was so loud that it pushed your adrenaline level to that of a base jumper. i then found out that the whole batch had some faulty component. at least i got a replacement within a week, so i thought "yea, great support".
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alright, i hope anyone can use this information. sorry for the length but i wanted to describe things as precisely as necessary. cheers from austria.
(edit: a typo)Message Edited by Temujin666 on 0-05-2005 03:49 AM

Hi folks,?Initially my audigy 2 nx was not working. But after installing the drivers for vista it started to work. But unfortunately, the other application from creative media source is not working. When I press EAX it says '[color="#000099">the application with the device not found'. But the sound card is working fine.[color="#000099">?[color="#000099">I have even mailed creative with the details. They have sent me a mail with the drivers and an application driver. I have installed the application driver too, but still no luck.[color="#000099">?[color="#000099">Kind regards,[color="#000099">Jwell[color="#000099">?

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