Cascade AirPort Extreme to Netgear Router

I am trying to create two (2) separate networks within my home (Note: I do not want any communication between the networks), using two different routers; (1) an Airport Extreme (5th generation) and a Netgear Nighthawk (AC1900).
I would like to connect the Netgear directly to the modem and then connect the LAN port of the Netgear router to the WAN port of the AirPort (LAN-WAN connection).  Since the routers have two different IP addressing systems, I assume I do not need to worry about static IP address or disabling the DHCP.
Unfortunately, when I set it up, I am unable to get a connection on the Airport.  I tested the wired connection on the Netgear to assure there is a wired Internet connection and there is, but when I plug it into the Airport, I am unable to get the Airport to work.  If I reverse the set-up and connect the Airport directly to the router and then make a LAN to WAN connection from the Airport to the Netgear, I can get both routers to work, but for security reasons, I would rather have the Netgear directly connected to the modem and have the Airport be after the Netgear.  Any help in how to make this work or what I may be doing wrong would be greatly appreciate.
Thanks

I am trying to create two (2) separate networks within my home (Note: I do not want any communication between the networks), using two different routers; (1) an Airport Extreme (5th generation) and a Netgear Nighthawk (AC1900).
I would like to connect the Netgear directly to the modem and then connect the LAN port of the Netgear router to the WAN port of the AirPort (LAN-WAN connection).  Since the routers have two different IP addressing systems, I assume I do not need to worry about static IP address or disabling the DHCP.
Unfortunately, when I set it up, I am unable to get a connection on the Airport.  I tested the wired connection on the Netgear to assure there is a wired Internet connection and there is, but when I plug it into the Airport, I am unable to get the Airport to work.  If I reverse the set-up and connect the Airport directly to the router and then make a LAN to WAN connection from the Airport to the Netgear, I can get both routers to work, but for security reasons, I would rather have the Netgear directly connected to the modem and have the Airport be after the Netgear.  Any help in how to make this work or what I may be doing wrong would be greatly appreciate.
Thanks

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    I have a BTBroadband wireless ADSLModem/Router which provides DNS for the network.
    Off tyhe router is a Netgear switch which has connected to it an Airport Extreme. Also off this switch I have many other peripherals - such as Time Capsule, iMac etc.
    So the arrangement is simple in logical terms:
    BT Modem------->Wireless Router (which allocates DNS)---------->Switch----------->Airport Extreme  etc.
    IP Settings as follows
    192.168.0.1 for Wireless Router - which allocates DNS in range 192.168.0.2 to 0.150.
    I have allocated a fixed IP on the Airport Extreme of 192.168.0.151
    The devices thart run off this are all having DNS allocated by the router - not the Airport Extreme.
    So - how do I set up (or can I set up) the Guest Wireless Network?
    Let's assume Router Wireless Network is call MainWireless with a Password MainWord, The Airport Extreme is acting in Bridge Mode and has the exact same 'Create a wireless network' called MainWIreless and Password MainWord (as per best practices in using these to provide the best 'network hopping' capabilities for devices (I actually have 2 other wireless devices from TimeCapsules that operate the wireless in the same way).
    All of this works fine.
    However when I set up the Guest Network on the Airport Extreme - simply by enabling it - I provide a new Guest Network name of GuestWireless with a password GuetsPassword. In theory it should all work fine, however the devices connecting to the Guest Network cannot get to the internet (effectively I don't think that the 'iPhone for example' is being allocated a correct IP Address - in fact I know that it isn't as its a 169 range and a different subnet).
    So - the only way I can think of doing this is to go into the Network Settings on the Airport Extreme, Change Bridge Mode Wireless to DHCP and NAT and then go into Network Options. Here I am a bit lost and need help.
    To summarise - Main Router Address 192.168.0.1 allocates range 192.168.0.2 to 150, Airport Extreme Address (static) address 192.168.0.151.
    Airport Extreme DHCP and NAT Network Options has:
    IPv4 DHCP Range - I have set to 192.168.0.152 to 255
    Guest IPv4 DHCP Range 10.0.0 152 to 255
    NAT Port Mapping Protocol is switched Off
    - This won't even save.
    Should be simple I would have thought. Think again...
    Please help - mwhat should I / can I do to enable a guest wireless network?

    Thanks for all that - I suspected as much (and I did mean DHCP not DNS).
    So - if I disable DHCP on the HomeHub3 IP 192.168.0.1, and set the Airport Extreme IP Address at 192.168.0.2, what do I do with DHCP and NAT settings to have a Main and Guest Wireless Network?
    I can easily change the order of things if necessary to be :
    BT Modem (192.168.0.1 with DHCP disabled)--->Airport Extreme (192.168.0.2 (set to get DNS from 192.168.0.1) )--->Switch---->Various wired and wireless devices.

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    Hi All,
    I Just purchased a Airport Extreme and what to use it on my current cable broadband network. But i have a few issues with doing this, due to my exsisting setup.
    Here is my current set up.
    NetGear CG3100D-2 which i have 2 Port forwards set up on this router (i have 2 CCTV DVR's connected via ethernet to this router, so i can remotley view DVR's).
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    Multiple wifi devices.
    Here is what i would like to achieve on my Network.
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    I have tried so many ways of connecting AEBS but havent be able to achieve what i want from my network..
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    My gut feel is that the bottleneck is the link from your home to your ISP.  Airport will not address that issue.
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    Nominal cable rates range from around 3Mbps to as high as 30Mbps, depending on how much you're paying for the service.  Unlike DSL, these nominal data rates do not change with distance from the provider.  However, also unlike DSL, the cable data rates will change when neighbors are using the system as the facility is shared.  (With DSL, you have your own physical wire pair to the C.O.)

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