Cash sale billing
hi frnds
in cash sale, how the billing amount is not posted to customer reconcillation account unlike standard sales.what is the control ?
regards
Hi,
In cash sales, you can process an order for when the customer orders the goods, picks them up, and pays for them immediately. The delivery is processed at the same time as when the order is created and a cash invoice is printed immediately: billing is therefore related to the order, unlike rush and standard orders. Receivables are not created for the customer, as they are for rush and standard orders because the amount in the invoice is immediately posted to a cash account.In the standard system, sales document type BV (CS) is saved for cash sales with immediate delivery type BV.
When the sales employee creates a cash sale, the system automatically proposes the current date as the date for delivery and billing. Once the order has been posted, a delivery with type BV is created immediately in the background and the system prints a document that is used as an invoice for the customer.
The invoice papers are controlled with output type RD03, contained in the output determination procedure for order type CS
Reward Point accordingly..
Cheerzz..
Subbzz.
Similar Messages
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Hi,
I raised the cash sale and it given the Doc no also but when i gone for billing in processing status it is telling Not processed
How can i do the billing for this ?
same msg is also coming for rush orderhi murali,
It true but the ownership of the materials has to be changed to customer, this is done by using PGI.
If it is order realted billing, then the sale document BV-cash sales should not the delivery docuement type like credit memo request.Check in tcode:vov8
please check
regards,
Arun prasad
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arun prasad -
Cash sale should be billed by taking the reference of delivery document
Dear gurus,
By default while doing cash sale system will give sales order number and delivery doc. number.
by taking reference of delivery i want to bill it.
what settings should be done to achieve this?Hi
For this the billing relevance of cash sale item category BVN has to be changed to A that is delivery related billing
In standard it will be B
After this in VTFL between your cash sale delivery type BV and cash sale billing type BV header level copying controls has to be defined and also for item category BVN
As this is not a standard practise these keys will not be there in VTFL.You have to define now
These are the two Must settings
Please carefully define cpoy control keys as your requirement will be achieved
I also do agree with the other friend , by doing this we are killing the very meaning of cash sales But this has been a client requirement for me too sometimeback (real time requirement)
Both order related and delivery related billing types has to be mentioned as BV for your cash sale order type in VOV8 in the billing tab
Caution With this If cash sale order is for 6 units and in the delivery document if somebody changes the qty to either 5 or 7 then billing will be for either 5 or 7, which can create a lot of confusion
You need a ABAP development to control not to modify order qty in delivery
Regards
Raja -
Problem in saving Cash sales Invoice
Hello,
I am working on Version 4.7. While saving the billing document for a cash sale [VF01], I am getting the following ABAP dump error:
CASH SALES ERROR
"GETWA_NOT_ASSIGNED_RANGE" C
"SAPLV60A" or "LV60AV02"
"RV_INVOICE_DOCUMENT_ADD"
<u>Info on where termination occured:</u>
The termination occured in the ABAP program "SAPLV60A" in "RV_INVOICE_DOCUMENT_ADD"
The main program was "SAPMV60A"
The termination occured in line 398 of the source code of the (Include) program "LV60AV02" (when calling the editor 3980)
This is followed by the program.
Please help in diagonising the problem.
Karthik.Hi,
Refer this note.
582570 Dump when saving cash sales billing documents
553256 Dump during FI transfer of billing document under U
114756 Customer hierarchy determination for pricing
This may be a configuration issue rather than a bug so it is something
that your CO consultant should investigate further.
Please check the following:
=> Please check and review the pricing procedure/userexits involved and
formulas (if any used in the pricing).
=> Are you doing a re-pricing during billing? If yes please for test
purposes please set it off in the copy rules and re-run the same job
again without repricing. This would allow you to locate the reasons
for the dump.
=> In TC KEDR check the definition of condition settings in the
derivation steps, if the length is set to 14 for e.g then the
attribute should be 11(3). As I cannot logon I dont know what fields
are incorrect so please check this.
=> Please also review the attached notes.
The following helped resolve a previous customer case with this issue:
Please check in case you have defined a condition in the derivation
step 'Clear product hierarchy 03 if level is blank' of your operating
concern which is not feasible. Therefore the system issues
a short dump. You there have defined a condition that the step
should be executed in case field CO-PA-PAPH3+10(5)is initial.
This cannot be handled by the system as field PAPH3 only has length
11 and not 15 which would be necessary to handle the condition.
If this is the case please adapt the condition accordingly and also
check if the other conditions in your derivation strategy are okay.
This should solve the problem.
Regards,
Murali -
Cash sale account detrmination error
Hi all,
I am getitng the error as account determination error while saving the cash sale invoice.
I manitained the configuration EVV account key to the billing document type and maintianed the G/L account for accountkey in VKOA in spro.
May I know is there anything missing here?
Kindly do the needful
Thanks and Regards
SriDear Vetukuri Srinivas,
You please check all the account determination process pertinent to cash sales.
Apart from that in cash sales billing document(VOFA) you have to maintain either account assignment key(EVV) or account determination procedure for cash settlement.
Check the GL account descriptions.
Hope it will work
Please revert
Thanks&Regards
Raghu.k -
Problem Receivable account determination, cash sales (EVV)
Hello all,
I need work with cash sales, billing type BV, then in the BV invoice type I have the EVV in the Account key for cash allocation.
I create correctly the G/L account determination, introducing one account in the entry for the key EVV.
And another for the receivables account, for example key ERL 700000
When I save the invoice, the account determination procedure works correctly, it found the account 700000, but the FI doc is not generated....
If i delete the EVV from the BV, the determination work correctly (accoutn 700000) but the cash account is not determined because I delete the EVV.
¿why is the reason?¿why it doesn't work when the BV have the EVV? I miss some customizing?¿depend of the definition of the FI accounts?
Best regards,
JavierHi Javier,
To begin with why you need to maintain both EVV and ERL in account determination?
The purpose of the account key in Billing document control is :-
Account key for cash allocation
account key that causes the system to post to a G/L account rather than to a receivables account. You can enter G/L accounts for the key entered in account assignment. (Account determination can be found in Basic Functions).
Use
You can use this to allow cash transactions to be carried out directly for the customer rather than receivables being created.
So this means that once you maintain the Account key for cash allocation,Direct entry will hit the relavant GL account rather than creating a receivable entry.
In your case you are trying to do both the things at same time.
In my view either you should maintain EVV or ERL.
Hope you will try and let me kow if it works allright
Reward points if useful
Regards,
Amrish Purohit -
Billing problem for cash sales document
Hi all ,
Greetings
we are customizing for cash sales. Required Three configuration setting are done for sales document i.e
1. Shipping condition Immediatly
2. Lead Time 0
3. Immediate delivery must be switch on
and order and delivery is done at the same time while creating the order. But while creating the billing for that order through vf01(billing type BV), We are getting an error "DOCUMENT DOES NOT CONTAINS ANY ITEM WITH OPEN QUANTITIES".
For the order, Output Type is RD03
can any one help on this?
Regards,
PramodHello Pramod,
In the copy controls from order to billing VTFA - check for the item category BVN - the billing quantity should be marked sa "A".
Also check in the VOV7 for item category BVN - the illing relevance should be "B".
Let me know if it works.
Thanks
Shobhit -
Hi all,
sales order is Cash sale, and delivery created automatically. but in billing in VF01 showing error
" Order quantity 10.000 not equal to goods issue 0.000 PC "
can i know the solution for this.
thanksHi
In cash sale PGI has to be done manually
Put the delivery in change mode and do PGI and then do billing
This will solve your issue
In back ground also this can be done provided you have done this settings
Background PGI in Cash Sales do t-code VL23. if a Z-variant has been created, try to use this. if there is none yet, then you will have to create one. the steps are:
1. execute VL23
2. click on 'create variant' either through menu or the icon
3. a dialog box will appear; enter the name of the variant and click 'create variant'
4. you will be brought to the 'Maintain Variant' screen; enter values as appropriate
5. after values have been entered, click 'attributes' and specify the options for the presented fields; enter a description for your variant and click on 'save'
6. your variant is now ready for use
a. when you execute VL23 again, select your variant and click either 'start immediately' (if you want to process now) or 'schedule' (for a specified date and time)
b. select the options in the following screen
c. click 'display scheduling' to view the time/date of background processing
Raja -
Scenario CASH SALE-AUTO PGI AND BILLING
Hai Gurus,
This is a cash sale scenario. Delivery will be created at the time of saving the order.
Now the requirement is that like delivery document created PGI and billing document also should be created.
case: VA01-CREATE
delivery created,pgi completed and billing document created;
How can we map it and what process should i follow to fulfill this requirement.
Thanks in advance
sameerHello,
We will not be able to achieve the same through config. As you know the immediate delivery will happen but PGI and billing will not happen. Before PGI, there are many other process can happen like picking, packing, serial number assignment ...etc. So I you want to have auto PGI and invoice while saving the cash sale, the process has to be enhanced. Contact your senior ABAP consultant with a clear requirement, he may be able to guide you properly.
Prase -
CASH SALE-AUTO PGI AND BILLING
Hai Gurus,
This is a cash sale scenario. Delivery will be created at the time of saving the order.
Now the requirement is that like delivery document created PGI and billing document also should be created.
case: VA01-CREATE
delivery created,pgi completed and billing document created;
How can we map it and what process should i follow to fulfill this requirement.
Thanks in advance
sameerit follows the same logic of cash sales.
as we all know- system creates delviery number at the time of saving cash sales doc-
here you might have same doubt- how the system finds the cash sales order number to generate delivery doc.
its there in background prog.
as i know- system find for the shipping condtion ( sales doc type ship condition has the priority), if the ship cond- X-create immediate delivery. then system call the transactin "Create delivery-"& the relevant data will be copied from sales order to delivery.
in the same way- this can be possible to call the transaction to do PGI,if PGI status is "completed" then call the transaction "VF01-create billing" & save the document - if the "log" message is "empty"-
i guess we can customize the program with above logic-
if ship cond = X,
create delivery
if delivery no= "XXXXX" -
this will take the ref from VBUK
do PGI
if del overall status - "Completed"
then create billing
if log="empty"
save billing.
i guess, its possible , plz check with ur abaper- give the logic. -
Cash sales Order Related Billing
Dear Forum Members
Hi
I need clarification on the following. Both in cash sales and regular sales orders , delivery , PGI and then billing is involved. So why we call cash sales process as order related billing. I find that unless goods are posted in cash sales delivery , invoice can not be created like in normal sales order. Request your inputs
Thanks in advance
regards
narasimhaI need clarification on the following. Both in cash sales and regular sales orders , delivery , PGI and then billing is involved. So why we call cash sales process as order related billing. I find that unless goods are posted in cash sales delivery , invoice can not be created like in normal sales order. Request your inputs
Hi narsimha
There is a lot of difference between cash sales order and normal sales order
The differences are
cash sale document type - BV , standard sales order document type - OR
Item category for cash sale is BVN and normal cash sales order it is TAN.
In VOV8, if you go to BV document type details , shipping conditions will be on where as in OR , shipping conditions will not be on .
In cash sale order , automatically a delivery number will be created in the background once you save the cash sale order , whereas in normal sales order , after saving order you need to do delivery and then save it then only delivery number will be generated
In cash sale the billing date will be todays date only where as in normal sale billing date can be after 1 week also , depends on the availability check
In normal sales cycle , you get invoice in billing F2, where as in Cash sale when you create a cash sale order the output you get is the invoice for the customer.
In cash sale there wont be any credit , where as in normal sales order there will be credit for customers .
Example :
cash sale - A customer purchasing goods in a retail outlet and then and there he is paying cash (no credit) to the retailer.
Normal sale - Customer purchasing goods but paying in installments , that means he is a regualar customer and he is getting credit.
Why cash sale is order related billing ?
Because , once you save the cash sale order automatically the delivery number is also created. now when you go to VL02n and enter the picking quantity it has to be fully referenced , of how much you have given in the cash sale order . But if you try to do partial delivery . you cant do again , you need to change the quantity what you have given in the delivery and enter in VA02 and enter the same quantity. then only the order will be closed
check the billing relevance for the item category BVN ( it is order related billing)
normal sales order is delivery realted billing ?
Because the item category for TAN is relavent for delivery and Billing relevence is different from BVN
you can do paritial deliveries in normal sales cycle till complete order quantity is referenced
Reward points if useful
Regards
Srinath -
Invoice list, individual billing doc and cash sale
hi gurus,
i have a couple of questions regarding the ff topics. need your help..
1. invoice list - i created billing docs with invoice list assigned to each bill doc type. when i tried creating an invoice list, it doesnt capture any docs i created. why?
2. individual billing doc - i changed the routine in the copy control for LF -- F2 to 003 single invoice. when i create an order, i can still create multiple billing docs. why?
3. cash sale - when i create a cash sale transaction and during billing, it is automatically cleared. how is it configured?
thanks!
paul2. individual billing doc - i changed the routine in the copy control for LF -- F2 to 003 single invoice. when i create an order, i can still create multiple billing docs. why?
This is because you must have assigned billing plan type to your order type and it is considering the billing date rule and allowing billing either monthly, or start of the month, or last date of the month. Just check whether you have done that.
I will try solving the others too.
Reward if helpful
Regards
Ravi
in SAP std. process for Cash Sale the customer will not be debited or customer account receivables are not created becuase the customer pays immediately. in cash sale invoice the amounts are posted directly to the Account Key EVV-Cash clearing.
Edited by: Ravi D Mansharamani on Feb 26, 2008 3:34 PM -
How to track Return in cash sale
Hi,
i am doing cash sale process & the account determination in Billing is cash account.(BV - billing doc type)
But if we customer return the material with ref. to cash sale how di I track that process.because there is no copy control in Between BV(cash billing type) -
to -
Re(return order type)
If i make my own copy control then when I create the billing for return how should I post the te reverse entery in acconts.
help me
Thanks & Regards
Sunilwhy seprate.. not required... use same pricing procedure... and assign same a/c/ keys... ERL and ERS..
reward if it helps..
Ramki -
Hello All,
I have configured Cash Sales and made one order also where in the document flow it is showing that all the Delivery , PGI & Invoice transactions are completed whereas against the Cash Sales Order status it is showing " Being Processed" despite that I have done PGI of the entire quantitiy of the material for which the order is raised.Why is this happening?
Moreover after creation of the delivery in the background as & when the sales order is saved , still I have to do PGI separately in VL02N otherwise the system is not allowing me to raise invoice though in case of Cash Sales the process followed is of Order relevant Billing & not Delivery relevant Billing.
Please suggest if I have missed any step in the configuration portion.
Thanks & Regards
Priyanka MitraThe standard sales doc type for Cash Sales is BV.
Check Config
At Sales I cat:
Billing Relevance: B
Pricing: X
Busi Item
Schline allowed
Wgt/vol relevant
Determine Cost
Check you I cat & schline determination and accordingly your Material master.
At Delv doc type
Order required: X Sales Order Required
Default ord.ty. DL
Sched ItemRequirement 202
Stor.loc.rule MALA
TextDetermProc. 02
At Del I Cat
Bill doc type:
SD document categ. M
Transaction group 7
Statistics
check your config for VTFA (Sales to Invoice for Cash Sales) - check Billing quantity indicator
Process Flow
In the standard system, sales document type BV is saved for cash sales with immediate delivery type BV.
When the sales employee creates a cash sale, the system automatically proposes the current date as the date for delivery and billing. Once the order has been posted, a delivery with type BV is created immediately in the background and the system prints a document that is used as an invoice for the customer.
The invoice papers are controlled with output type RD03, contained in the output determination procedure for order type BV.
If the customer has already received the goods, this delivery should not be relevant for picking. If the customer is to pick the goods up from a warehouse, the delivery should be relevant for picking. If the goods are to be sent, this can be processed by maintaining the delivery in the usual way.
The system automatically creates a resource-related billing index which updates the billing due list. Billing document BV is created as the system processes the billing due list, but an invoice is not printed.
Once the customer has received the goods and is satisfied with them, the transaction is considered to be complete. We recommend that you post goods issue in the background using a program designed specifically for this purpose. You can then bill the transaction.
The cash sale can only be billed if the order quantity is the same as the goods issue quantity. If this is not the case, you need to adjust the cash sale document so that the delivered quantity and the quantity to be billed match.
You use an order-related collective billing process to bill the cash sale, but an invoice is not printed. The sales order number is used as the reference for the accounting document, created in Financial Accounting.
Dealing with Problems and Complaints
If the transaction does not run smoothly, manual intervention is necessary. For example, if the required quantity of goods is not found in the warehouse, you need to adjust the delivery quantity. Equally, if the customer is not prepared to pay the agreed price, because, for example, the goods are scratched, you can change the price in the cash sale document.
In extreme cases, you can delete the entire transaction, starting with the delivery. If the delivery is damaged before it is picked up but after it is paid for and there is no replacement stock, you can initiate a subsequent delivery. If you make changes to the cash sale, you can issue a new cash sale invoice using the repeat printout function.
Thanks & Regards
JP -
Cash sales in DBM with a cash account
Dear Experts,
My client requires that in case of cash sales in DBM, the amount gets posted to a cash account instead of customer account. This process is akin to "Cash Sales" in SAP "Sales and Distribution". It is managed in SD with the billing type BV and by setting up cash account determination.
In order to achieve this in DBM, we have done following in customizing.
Copy a new order type from 1000 - Parts order and assign bill type BV instead of F2. We have maintained cash account determination in SD customizing and ensured that the required cash account is posted when a bill with type BV is treggered by DBM Billing Create event.
With this the process appears to be going well. On creating the invoice for new order type, the cash account is posted instead of customer account. And on cancellation of invoice the accounting entries are reversed. Also, the users dont have to settle the cash in 'DBM cash desk' as the amount is posted directly to cash account instead of customer account.
I request members to share their experience/opinion on following points,
1) Will there be any unforeseen impact on the other DBM functions because of this new set up ?
2) Has anyone already used such setup and what has been the experience ?
Thanks and Regards,
DhairyasheelHI Dhairyasheel,
This is a client specific requirement and so no such process was delivered by SAP.
The way you have handled it almost the same way I would ahve done had I been asked to do so.
To answer your first point - as long as your account postings are happening fine (both forward and reversals), then I dont think there should be any issues.
As this new, pl do keep this thread updated if possible.
Thank you.
Best regards,
Harsha
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