Catalog in both lightroom 3 and 4

I am taking classes in Digital Photo at the local college. They are using Lightroom 3 and I have Lightroom 4.1 at home. Need to edit images both at home and at school. Lightroom 4 catalogs cannot be read in Lightroom 3. Is there any way to edit a catalog in both versions?

There is no way that one catalog file can be used in both LR3 and LR4.
However, individual photos can be edited in Process 2010 in both LR3 and LR4, and if you save the Metadata to the files (Ctrl-S on Windows), you should be able to transfer photos back and forth and maintain the edits and other metadata. Your edit history will not transfer, collection status will not transfer, and a few other things will not transfer, but final edited position and keywords and captions and titles and some other things (too many to list) will transfer.

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Hi all
So I have lightroom on both my laptop and desktop and sync catalog through google drive.
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