Catalog Photos with LR4 or PSE12

At present my photos are catalogued in LR4. I now have Photoshop Elements 12 and would like some advice on whether I should:
Continue adding to the LR4 catalogue
Put new photos in a new PSE12 catalogue - not a good idea for cross-application keyword searches
Transfer everything across to PSE12 and start adding to it
For me option 1 looks best, but just want to be reassured that I'm not missing out on something.
Cheers,
Peter
Message was edited by: Peter 1962
Should also say I have Premiere Elements 12 which I believe can share a catalogue with PSE12. Could both of these share the present Lightroom based catalogues?

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