Catalogue Back up

My catalogue backup in Elements 12 Organser does not complete, it runs to 65 -75% then freezes, this has happened everytime so I have no catalogue backup. I have 1500 items in the catalogue which uses about 5 mb, any ideas ?

It's not a large catalog; so there should be no problems.
Do you have any unusual files or unsupported video clips?
You could try optimizing catalog before running the backup, also try catalog repair and if nothing found to repair, repair anyway.

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I recently upgraded from Vista(32bit) to Windows 7(64bit) but before doing so I backed up my PSE6 catalogue to an eternal HDD. Now I find I am unable to restore the catalogue back to PSE Organiser. can anybody throw any light on the subject?

Clwydian25 wrote:
I recently upgraded from Vista(32bit) to Windows 7(64bit) but before doing so I backed up my PSE6 catalogue to an eternal HDD. Now I find I am unable to restore the catalogue back to PSE Organiser. can anybody throw any light on the subject?
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OS: Windows Vista

Ken,
The converted catalog is on its original location (hence original version is overwritten). PSE 7 crashes when opening this catalog.
The backup of the original catalog is on an external drive. Now I want to restore the back-up catalog, my understanding is I need to do this with PSE 7. (I tried it with PSE 9 too but got an error message).
However when I open the PSE 7 software/ organiser it starts automatically to open the converted/ corrupted catalogue and the program crashes...
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Thanks for your help.
Regards, Paul

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Hi,
I've trawled the net, searched forums and been told to go away by Adobe so I'm hoping someone here might be able to help.
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---Shoot2
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--Shoot 2
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Thanks for reading!
Chris

"We then return and import the amended catalogue back into Lightroom but when doing so Lightroom adds extra Folders into LR or doesn't put the folder back where it should be like this:"
It sounds like, when you do the import from catalog, you are importing the catalogue with the images. The steps would normally be:
1. Export from catalog, including negatives, and use this on the other machine
2. On other machine, export as catalog, but not including the negatives
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Sasku
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Recently, i had to do a clean re-install of windows 7hp. And also i saved the needed data. of course i lost all of my downloaded software etc. Their is a second drive on my computer with lightroom;its backups and a folder entitled all my photos. The same material for lightroom is backed up to an external hard drive. How do i go about re-installing lr5 , and restore the catalogue back ups and the other folders.? I need a step by step set of procedures here as i am a computer stupie. Thanks for your help!

redfordl2012 wrote:
Have a few questions before i do the reinstall. step #1 is to reinstall from the original disk or to download from adobe"s website with proper serial #,regeistration #? Step #2 is to restore the catalogues by double clicking on the latest catalogue backup?(or are all backup catalogue"s clicked) When i do this backup will this transfer all of my parent folders,subfolders to the left panel of the library module in its original order? Step 3. After the catalogue restore is done, will this leave this cat. folder in the same disk under lightroom or will this folder be deleted. I have all of the lightroom folders backed up on an external hard drive. Last step is to move all my pictures from the all my photos folder to lightrm. Is this correct? How is this done? By an import in the lightroom software using import,move.or copy on the top import toolbar. I know i sound paranoid on doing these procedures correctly as i do not wish to lose any catalogues etc.. Thanks for your help!!
Not sure where you came up with these steps from
Step 1 ... either should work, but the download is the most recent version
Step 2 ... double-click on the latest catalog backup, yes
Step 3 ... Catalog is whereever you double-clicked on the backup file, you can move it whereever you want thereafter, using your operating system with Lightroom closed
Step 4 ... no moving of photos should be needed, definitely NO IMPORTING NO IMPORTING NO IMPORTING NO IMPORTING NO IMPORTING, if the photos are not linked in Lightroom, then follow these instructions http://www.computer-darkroom.com/lr2_find_folder/find-folder.htm and remember NO IMPORTING NO IMPORTING NO IMPORTING NO IMPORTING NO IMPORTING and did I mention that you should not import your photos?
For future reference, you stated that you had Lightroom and its backups on the same drive ... do not do this ... backups must go on a different physical drive

RAW FILES NOT LARGE AFTER OUTSOURCING LR SMART PREVIEWS : images staying at Smart Preview sizes. What is wrong?

My friend's RAW files won't go back to the large size they were after outsourcing LR SMART PREVIEWS to outsource editor.
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Describe exactly what steps were taken. It doesn't make sense that the editor sent her smart previews. Normally she would do Export to Catalog, checking the box to include smart previews, and send this exported catalogue and its smart previews to the editor. The editor would then send the catalogue back to her (the smart previews are no longer needed), and she would do File > Import from Another Catalog.

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i have just realized that LR no longer has keywords for images either from 2 or 2.1 upgrade time. I ma not sure if they came into LR2, becuse i was too busy to pay attention. Anyway, i have MacBook Pro running 10.5 OS, 4 GB memory, all RAW photo files on a separate hard drive. I do have LR1.x catalogue backed up but no idea what to do now. i have seen a couple places on the internet that said a similar problem existed, but the fix did nothing for me.
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Where are all of LR5 custom settings saved on a PC, i.e, Export Presets & Watermarks?

I need to reload my entire system, and don't want to have to start fresh with LR5. I would like to import all of my existing settings.
I have all my photos and catalogues backed up, but not sure about LR5 customisation settings.

Go to Edit>Preferences>Presets>Show Lightroom Presets Folder.
These folders are usually (see below) actually in the same folder called 'Lightroom' where your catalog lives.
If you back up the entire 'Lightroom' folder they should be there unless you have elected to put the folder elsewhere.
Either way 'Show Lightroom Presets Folder' takes one there.
You can copy and back it up seperately or as part of the greater 'ightroom folder' back up.
Tony Jay

XMP confusion

I just can't get my head around this xmp thing. Some basic info:
I use DNG files
I back-up my Lightroom catalogue every time Lightroom exits
and under catalogue settings >metadata I have ticked:
Include develop settings in metadata inside jpeg, tiff & psd files
+ Automatically write changes into xmp
I am about to start using Photoshop
Some questions please:
1) When I exit Lightroom & back-up my catalogue, does this also write the xmp into my DNG, or must this be a separate operation
2) I've heard that auto' write changes into xmp can slow things down - is this correct for someone like myself who doesn't work with a huge number of images
3) From what I've read it seems to me that maybe when I send LR4 images to PS for further editing I should ensure that LR4 edits are written into xmp (so even if catalogue back-up writes xmp to the dng, if I've made say develop module changes during current session I'd still need to write changes to xmp before opening with PS)
The more I read about this the more confused I become. Can someone please answer these questions as simply as possible
Many thanks

Exporting Files
LR embeds metadata from the catalog into all exported files and, if the Edit In feature is used (e.g. Edit in Photoshop), re-imports metadata from the file once editing is complete. This is entirely automated, requiring no manual operations from the photographer. This applies to all supported export formats (JPG, TIFF, PSD and DNG).
Modifying Metadata Within LR
If he so wishes the photographer may want to update metadata from within LR. By default, these changes remain inside the catalogue. The photographer may wish to manually update the file using Library > Metadata > Save Metadata to File or automatically using the Edit > Preferences > Catalog Settings > Editing > Automatically write changes into XMP. Same goes for Develop settings if the Include Develop settings in metadata inside JPEG, TIFF, and PSD files is selected.
If metadata on RAW format files are modified and updated (manually or automatically) then a sidecar xxx.xmp file is generated/updated in the same folder as the original in order to avoid corrupting proprietary RAW files.
Modifying Metadata Outside LR
If metadata is edited independent of LR, LR prompts the photographer by displaying an arrow symbol in the top right of the image in Grid and Filmstrip previews. The photographer can either update LR from the file or re-write LR metadata to the file by clicking on the arrow or the using the features above.
It should be noted that whilst advantageous to keep Develop and other metadata stored in image files in order to more effectively interface with other applications and protect from Catalog failure, it isn’t strictly necessary because exporting transfers the metadata anyway and your catalogue should be backed up regularly.
Furthermore, assuming automatic update mode, constantly writing and re-writing out your master image files (not RAW) just because metadata has changed on the off-chance you might want to refer to that metadata outside of LR seems like an unnecessary overhead to me. Also, the fact that most backup programs will be compelled to re-backup your files adds to the system burden.
Maybe it would be worth it if you planned to have two instances of LR running using shared image files – maybe a desktop and laptop with NAS?
I don’t know, the case for turning this automatic XMP update hasn’t been made for me and my workflow. Maybe it will be for yours.
Roy, to answer your questions specifically:
Per advice from dj – separate operation but can be automated
Per advice from dj, though I believe there has to be a performance impact when re-writing out master files just because you added a keyword or increased the white balance temperature by a few kelvin. Imagine adding a simple keyword to 10, 000 images...and then backing them all up.
I disagree with dj on this, sending images to PS does involve xmp because LR automatically embeds the latest metadata from the catalogue into the exported file and updates the catalogue from the edited file on return. Nothing to do manually, though.

Can't backup PSE 5 - recovery stalls at 66%

I haven't backed up my catalogue in several months (I know - I'm bad...!) I reconnected missing pics, and then it started the Recovery - and stalled at 66%. I've read that it might look stall at 33 or 66%, and that it might take some time - but the entire program stops responding, and I cant do anything. The bottom task bar on my computer disappears, and I can't minimize the program or anything. I'm running XP.
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If it is large catalog it takes some time to restore. Even though it seems stalls at 66 %, it would progress further. Please wait for some time and let it completed.

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