Catalyst 3850 Cross-Stack EtherChannel

On 3850 configuration guide, I came across PAgP desirable mode is not supported in the switch stack (cross-stack EtherChannel).
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/catalyst3850/software/release/3se/layer2/configuration_guide/b_lay2_3se_3850_cg/b_lay2_3se_3850_cg_chapter_0101.html
But on Q&A document, it mentioned 3850 supports PAgP.
Q.    What cross-stack EtherChannel link bundling protocols are supported?
A.     The Cisco Catalyst 3850 supports Cisco Port Aggregation Protocol (PAgP) and industry-standard IEEE 802.3ad Link Aggregation Control Protocol (LACP). Other 3750 Series Switches support only LACP for cross-stack EtherChannel.
Seems like both statements are contradicting.
Can someone shed some light on this?
Thank you.

Hi, adimakmur 
Cisco Catalyst 3850 Cross-Stack EtherChannel can be PAgP+ and can be used for VSS dual active detection.
In last deployment of 3850 we use Cross-Stack EtherChannel and use it as trusted for VSS dual active detection.
c6500-V#sh switch virtual dual-active pagp
PAgP dual-active detection enabled: Yes
PAgP dual-active version: 1.1
----skiped----
Channel group 106 dual-active detect capability w/nbrs
Dual-Active trusted group: Yes
          Dual-Active     Partner              Partner   Partner
Port      Detect Capable  Name                 Port      Version
Te1/7/7   Yes             c3850-307            Te1/1/3   1.1
Te2/7/7   Yes             c3850-307            Te2/1/3   1.1
---skiped----
c6500-V#sh etherchannel 106  protocol 
Protocol:  PAgP
c3850-307#sh etherchannel port-channel 
                Channel-group listing: 
Group: 1 
                Port-channels in the group: 
Port-channel: Po1
Age of the Port-channel   = 235d:20h:50m:10s
Logical slot/port   = 12/1          Number of ports = 2
GC                  = 0x00010001      HotStandBy port = null
Port state          = Port-channel Ag-Inuse 
Protocol            =   PAgP
Port security       = Disabled
Ports in the Port-channel: 
Index   Load   Port     EC state        No of bits
------+------+------+------------------+-----------
  0     00     Te1/1/3  Desirable-Sl       0
  0     00     Te2/1/3  Desirable-Sl       0
Time since last port bundled:    169d:04h:58m:49s    Te1/1/3
Time since last port Un-bundled: 169d:05h:00m:47s    Te1/1/3

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    http://mrncciew.com/2014/05/06/configuring-new-mobility/
    http://mrncciew.com/2013/12/14/3850ma-with-5760mc/
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    http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/switches/lan/catalyst3750/software/release/12-2_55_se/configuration/guide/scg3750/swethchl.html#wp1275881
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