CDE or Java Desktop?

Hi,
I'm pretty much forced to run Solaris 10 on some Ultra5's. This may sound like a silly question (to those who know), but which desktop would give the better performance - CDE or Java Desktop?
Thanks,
Phil

CDE by a long shot. If you can get xforce to run you would be even better off with that (based on openwindows). CDE works great but my god is it just a pain compared to the ease of use JDS has. You could use JDS without going crazy if you have decent video cards in those ultras.
I love CDE except for the 256 bit makes my eyes hurt, and the strange icon behavior (the desktop not being a folder) and all the rest just makes me use JDS.

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At the login in screen,choose options,Java Desktop should be there as an option.
From a fellow Solaris newbie.

Black Screen with cursor. Java Desktop System.

Hello everyone.
I've installed Solaris 10 05/08 x86 32bit in VMWare Workstation 6.5.
After I logged in in the system (Java Desktop System, Release 3), I've got only a black screen with cursor, nothing more.
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Video Driver: XF86 VMWARE
Resolution/Colors: 800x600 65536 colors @75Hz
Screen size: 17 inch
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But the CDE starts normally.
What's the problem?
Help, please.
P.S. Computer with VMWARE Workstation: Asus P4P800SE, P4HT 3.0Gz, 2.0Gb Ram, Ati AIW X800 AGP 256Mb..
Edited by: xaxaTyH on Oct 9, 2008 7:26 AM
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Hi
Have you installed all the Recommended Patchset . If not try to install the patches .
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Login to Java Desktop fails after IP address change

If the IP address (or networking type DHCP vs. static address) changes, users can no longer log in to their accounts and use the Java Desktop environment. I can get around this by using the Solaris Management Console from CDE to remove the user(s) without removing their respective home directories, then recreating the users with the respective home dirs. This, however, seems to be an extreme hack to me. Is there a better way? Thanks.

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Messed Java Desktop Release 3

for some reason I can only get into CDE on my Solaris 10 x86 last update.
when I log into the JAva Desktop.. it just hangs without any error msg of any kind.
What I've done that might be due to:
1. trying to set up IPFilter (think it should be working OK now)
2.to change my hostname from the unknown
3. via smc (Solaris Management Console) played with assigning users rights/groups , as I hated it too much when I need to install something to log as root then finding out I have to re-install it for the regular user from his account... like the StarOffice-I've installed it as root, but as a regular used it still wants me to install it..
So what I've done - it seems that I have the same desktop in JD when I log in with a reg. user.. but now it JD does not start..
Oh,I've edited also /etc/passwd for the shells assigned /bin/bash and addded Super-User to my regular user..
At last I'm not 100% sure that no.3 is the problem as I'm not 100% whether I did restart after doing number 3. Basically I'm not sure if I did the reboot prior to no.1,2 or after I 've done all the 3 things....
So how can I get the JD working again?
Any Ideas?
Many Thanks in Advence!

Ok, I don't know which logs to look at.. tried in /var/log.. everythings seems to be OK,no errors , just one warnning which I'm 101% is irrelevant- in xorgl log about something keyboard related.
Now I've tried to log in again into JD and hit Alt+Ctrl+Del to see :
stdprocess
no such file.......
I've tried to start this from console-voila it's a process manager/monitor.. it works..
Any ideas what is messed up?
Anyone?
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Can't launch Java Desktop in Solaris 10 X86

I've installed Solaris 10 for x86 with Jumpstart but I can't log on using Java Desktop--any Ideas?
PS, how do you set the screen resolution in CDE?
Thanks,
Dave

Hello,
You can use kdmconfig.
Let me know if it solved your issue. I have the same problem with solaris 10 b72... JDS cannot be loaded, and I come back to the login screen. But no problem with CDE.

Java Desktop System Release 3 - Login problems

Hi all,
This is my first post here so apologies if I'm in the wrong area. I've recently installed Solaris 10 (5.10 Generic_118833-36) onto a V245. I wanted to see if I could get the gui desktop to work so I downloaded/installed Hummingbird Exceed on to my Windows XP workstation. Having launched Exceed XDMCP broadcast I could see my host in the list so I selected and clicked OK. I was instantly presented with the blue login shell, so good so far. In options, sessions I chose Java Desktop System release 3. When I tried to login as root the login shell just dies and disappears but If I use a non-root account it takes me all the way in to the desktop gui. The same thing happens if I use select CDE as the session type as well.
So my question is how do you login as root?
I gues it's a config file somehwere that needs a tweak but I've not been able to find anything helpful on Goolge so far.
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Thanks
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I just removed the locales using the same tool and I can log in now.
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Java Desktop on Solaris 10 is running too slow

Hi.
This is my first post :-) I work on quite fast sun server with solaris 10. I connect to the server with XWin tool from cygwin. CDE works perfect, but i have problems with Java Desktop. When i open a window - for example terminal - the command prompt works fine i can write commands and answers are fast, but when i try to move the window with the mouse, desktop hangs up for about 30 seconds, sometimes longer. And when i use logout from menu it takes more than 3 minutes to logout the user. Maby someone knows a couse for this problem, or any solution.
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How much memory do you have in your machine? JDS requires more RAM than CDE. If you're close to the edge, it's going to page out applications, and that will make it take longer when you switch to them.
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Can't use Java Desktop System

I've installed Solaris 10 u2 x86 and after having fought with setting up X for a month. I've now managed to get X to start on my 1920x1200 Dell monitor.
The problem is when I chose Java Desktop System, Release 3 as the session I just get kicked back to the login display.
Can someone tell me where I am supposed to look to see what's wrong?
I can login using CDE, but who want's to use that when JDS is around!
Martin

Since I stumbled onto the solution I'm sharing it here.
I logged into CDE and tried to get a web browser going, but nothing happened when clicked on the web browser icon.
Then I tried running mozilla from a terminal, but it complained about missing library libmlib.so.2. A quick search on google brought me back to these forums and a post saying "Missing libmlib.so.2 - GDM won't start".
I put the solaris 10 dvd into the cdrom and added the SUNWmlib package.
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Solaris Managment console in Java desktop release 3

Hi Experts,
I have recently installed Solaris 10/8 on a x86 based system.When I try to login to the server through CDE it gives a message "CDE has been deprecated and will be removed in future release of Solaris. Please move to the Java Desktop System (aka JDS)"
If I login using JDS I am unable to see Solaris Managment console. Is there any new console that is been used in the JDS or we have to do the managment manually?
Revert back if you have any questions.
Regards,
Sunil.

How I've always done it is open up a shell and just type SMC that always seems to work for me, even in the days when I was using cde I would do the same.
I guess, that for me, an X session was just a way to have a lot of terminal windows open, but that's just me :)
~Ivy

Uninstall Java Desktop System?

Hi,
when browsing the docs (docs.sun.com, search for java desktop system), I've a tough time in finding how to unistall the java desktop system. Also, using the prodreg package manager, I only find some GNOME packages, but nothing about jds.
Can jds be removed (while preserving the CDE/KDE desktop managers)? If so, how?
Thanks in advance!
Cheers, Peter.

There's no 'official' method of uninstalling JDS that I know of.
You can get a list of all JDS packages using this command:
pkginfo -c JDS3 | awk '{print $2}'
Note that this list includes all packages delivered by the JDS team,
including things like Python, libpng and mozilla.
To uninstall all packages, you can feed that list into pkgrm (as root):
sed -e 's/ask/nocheck/' /var/sadm/install/admin/default > /tmp/admin
pkginfo -c JDS3 | awk '{print $2}' | xargs -n1 pkgrm -a /tmp/admin -n
rm /tmp/admin
This will uninstall all JDS packages without asking.
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pkgrm SUNWsogm
pkgrm SUNWsom

SRSS 3.1, Java Desktop, and hotdesking

I've just recently fielded a Sun Ray 3.1 server with about ten clients in our environment.
The problem I'm facing is that when we use the Java desktop with a smart card login when the user goes to resume a session by reinserting their card they get a white screen with a name and password space. When they enter their password they get a "validating login..." then a "system error"
The only thing we can do with the session at that point is kill it via utsession.
We didn't have this problem when we didn't use the smartcards (which we have to use per security) and CDE operates without issues.
Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Dan

The white screen will be the 'xlock' screenlock. SRSS launches it when a session
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not able or willing to lock the screen.
If entering the correct password doesn't cause xlock to unlock the screen then
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entries in /etc/pam.conf on this machine are not correct for whatever login
authentication scheme you have in place on this machine. Usually you want
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by the CDE screenlock program when it runs on a Sun Ray.
While you're in pam.conf, make sure that the 'xscrensaver auth' entries are correct
too, just in case you then go on to figure out why 'xscreensaver' isn't working in the
first place.
If you don't want the screen to be locked at all when hotdesking then do
'man -M /opt/SUNWut/man utxlock' for an explanation of how to prevent it.
OttoM.

What happen to my java desktop?

Suddenly, my java desktop didn't work so I found a tip from here and followed the tip, but it didn't work...
I can see the login screen but that's it... after I log in, I can see a mouse pointer with black background.
However, I can use CDE..???? this is weird.....
Help...me..
Do I have to reinstall java desktop? then how can remove the old java desktop and reinstall it?

I've run into the same issue when I was playing around with some system files. Though I offer a way to fix it, it is NOT elegant and I don't honestly know the EXACT problem.
However, to fix, I simply copied all of my data file at /export/home/[yourname] somewhere safe, perhaps /export/home/temp.
Next, login to CDE and use the management console and blast the entire user account and delete files. Then recreate a user of the same credentials and restore your data files. Note that if you restore ALL of your files, you may just make the same issue appear. Just move your important data files first and login to JDS to test....it should work. Then just restore some more of the esoteric files gradually, that way, in case you blow it up again, you have some idea what files are bunk.

Latest patches break Java Desktop on Dell 2800

I have solaris 10 x86 installed on a Desll Poweredge 2800. I have just loaded all the latest patches via updatemanager. Now if I try to log into any account to the gnome Sun Java Desktop the machine logs in ... then hangs before any of the toolbars etc are loaded ... it hangs so badly I have to reboot via the powerswitch
If I login using CDE it works perfectly. The Java Desktop did work until the latest batch of patches was installed. Does anyone have any Idea on how to fix this?

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Java desktop application run problem

Hi.
I have designed java desktop application which includes some libraries (XMLparserV2.jar, Ojdbc6.jar,xdb.jar, Orai18n-mapping,jar) with XML ini file.
Then I have done deploy to jar. After it I relocated jar file and XML ini files to separate directory and ran javaw -jar myjarfile.jar. I can't see anything.
Where I can see any errors ?
Thanks for reply in advance.
Andrii.

Try running java -jar myjarfile.jar from the command line and see if you get any errors showing up (probably missing classes in your path)

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