Cellular/data usage while connected to Wi-Fi with iPhone 5

I recently upgraded from an iPhone 4 to an iPhone 5 and when I view my usage details for data I am seeing small amounts of data use even while my phone is connected to Wi-Fi and charging. I did not see this with my iPhone 4.
The usage is small and I'm guesstimating adds up to 20-30MB per month, but wondering if this is normal.
My iPhone 4 was running iOS 5.1.1 and the iPhone 5 is running iOS 6.0.2 and Verizon 13.3.
I'm not if this is considered normal as I've read about the recent bug that was allowing a lot of data to leak while on Wi-Fi. Supposedly iOS 6.0.2 and Verizon 13.1 fixed this issue. Others have posted that a replacement phone fixed the issue.
The small data use seems to be about 30-90kb every couple of hours. Again, I never saw this with the iPhone 4.
Do others see this small data usage while on Wi-Fi?
Thanks!
David

Hmmm, I don't think that's the case. As I said, I can keep perfect track of wi-fi and 3G usage with the DataMan app. While I'm connected via wi-fi, there's a 90-10 ratio between wi-fi and 3G. There's a lot of wi-fi usage, meaning it is connected, at least, most of the time.
Maybe an alternative answer to my question, based on your reply, would be the fact that the connection might be dropped SOMETIMES, but not FOR GOOD, when the phone is locked. I would like to understand this behaviour better - why it is dropped? It really makes little sense to drop the wi-fi connection if it is known that it is much stabler, faster AND it costs me zero to use data with it.
I don't wanna spend my 3G data, that's why we keep looking for wi-fi connections everywhere we go, right?

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I just updated my iphone 4 to ios 4.3.2, and I have so many problems now
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