CF10 VFS Max Size Limit?

It there a maximum amount of Ram that can be allocated the the virtual file system?  When I specify more than 1 GB size, the system returns a negative number for the remaining free space, and any attempt to store a file resuts in storage limit exceeded errors.
I've been unable to locate much detail about the VFS configuration via web searches.  Any details are appreciated.
Ronnie

AustinValley wrote:
It there a maximum amount of Ram that can be allocated the the virtual file system?  When I specify more than 1 GB size, the system returns a negative number for the remaining free space, and any attempt to store a file resuts in storage limit exceeded errors.
Well, you will also get that when you have $25 in your pocket, but spend $32. It is easy to find out how much memory you have. Search for Coldfusion java.lang.Runtime on the web. You will find something like
<cfscript>
  rt = CreateObject("java","java.lang.Runtime").getRuntime();
  memory = StructNew();
  memory.freeAllocated = rt.freeMemory() / 1024^2;
  memory.total = rt.totalMemory() / 1024^2;
  memory.max = rt.maxMemory() / 1024^2;
  memory.used = memory.total - memory.freeAllocated;
  memory.freeTotal = memory.max - memory.total + memory.freeAllocated;
  memory.heapMemory = memory.used;
</cfscript>
<cfdump label="Memory in MB" var="#memory#">

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         at jrockit.reflect.NativeMethodInvoker.invoke0(Ljava.lang.Object;ILjava.lang.Object;[Ljava.lang.Object;)Ljava.lang.Object;(Unknown Source)
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Source)                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 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    All,
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         at jrockit.reflect.VirtualNativeMethodInvoker.invoke(Ljava.lang.Object;[Ljava.lang.Object;)Ljava.lang.Object;(Unknown Source)
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         at com.bea.wlw.runtime.jcs.container.JcsProxy.invoke(Ljava.lang.Object;Ljava.lang.reflect.Method;[Ljava.lang.Object;)Ljava.lang.Object;(JcsProxy.java:381)
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         at jrockit.reflect.VirtualNativeMethodInvoker.invoke(Ljava.lang.Object;[Ljava.lang.Object;)Ljava.lang.Object;(Unknown 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    Is there a size limit on the internal HD on the iBook?
    The only limitation of HDD size is due to availability. The largest capacity ATA/IDE HDD available is 250 GB. Theoretically there is no limit to the capacity your computer will support, if larger capacity HDDs were available.
    If size is not the problem, it seems that maybe it would help if I somehow pre-install the system onto the 160Gb before I physically put it into the iBook.
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    • Select the sub-volume (indented) under Manufacturer ID (usually Macintosh HD).
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    • Click Erase button
    • Quit Disk Utility.
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