Change Delta load to Full in DSO

Is it possible to change Delta load to Full in DSO without recreate it?
Thanks!

Our data comes from other system not R/3. We chose Delta when designed this DSO. But I thought Full load will make validation easier.
I am testing two Update Options in DTP of this DSO. The options are:
1. Further Processing Without Master Data
2. No Further Processing Without Master Data
I had one testing data contain a ITEM NO that doesn't exist in the Master data. I expect to see 0 gets loaded when number 2 option selected. (This worked)
Also I expect to see 1 records get updated to the DSO when Option 1 is chosen. (I still load 0).
Our business people wants to know what are those ITEMs that do not exist in the Master data. Any ideas? Thank you.

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Delta Load and Full load

What is the difference between delta load and full load?when are they used?

Hi,
Delta loads - Brings only the changed or newly added data to the data target...
Full loads - Brings all the data whether it is old, new or changed data to the data target...
Full loads are usually used to load master data since it wont change in course of time and delta loads are used when there are large amount of data to be extracted from the source system. It entirely depends on the requirement...
Regards,
Kishore

Delta load to Full load

Hello Gurus,
As per my knowledge while creating delta load form R/3 to BW we need to declare the type of load in R/3 and in the infopackage ....
Where my doubt come on,
i need to convert delta load to full load for one info object ,is their any steps to do in R/3 for changing the type of load .
where i had just changed the load type in only Info package ...is it runs fine.
Plz assist me
Thanks in advance
SAP

Hi,
There is nothing specific needs to be done in R/3.
A data source is delta enabled but still you can load it through full load and in that case you need not do an initialization just schedule a full load package.
i need to convert delta load to full load for one info object ,is their any steps to do in R/3 for changing the type of load .
For this just delete the init which is present there and create the new package with option full update.Just make sure that the last delta is loaded for precaution.
Since infoobject is overwrite so no need to delete the data also every day there will be full load and it will bring the new data along with.
This wil start loading the full load into your object.
Hope it clears
Thanks
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How to change Delta Datasource to Full Load?

Hi All,
I have an issue in my report which has Inbound Datasource (customized) from EKES and GRn from VBFA customized datasource.
Currently,
EKES is FULL UPDATE*
VBFA is DELTA UPDATE
My Scenario steps:
Step1:Inbound Created --EKES
Step2:GRn done--VBFA
Step3:Grn Reversed--VBFA
Step4:Inbound Deleted.--- EKES
So When the user deleted the INBOUND after REVERSAL, my EKES is full update, so it doesn't capture the deleted INBOUND based on our Datasource design to FILTER the AVAILABLE INBOUND. by type selection.
so before deletion GRN done in STEP 2, which is alreadt pushed to BI and after deletion of Inboubd GRN from VBFA is DELTA UPDATE, it doesn't capture the Deletion data...
In order to remove the deleted INBOUND from VBFA Infoprovider, I am planning easiest way to do FULL UPDATE...
May what are the precaution and steps to convert the DELTA update to Full UPDATE?
My flow 2PSA(EKES & VBFA)>2DSO(frm EKES & VBFA)->CUBE--->MultiProvider
Pls provide a good suggestion.

Hi ,
I mean to say, losing data in the sense..Once I do Full LOAD, will there any chance I miss data.
Also correct my below steps, if I am wrong,
1.Delete data from Target and PSA.
3. Run setup table-----HERE MY CONFUSION comes....my datasource is 0FI_GL_14. IT IS A FI datasources and this is not LO Method to do SET UP TABLE... or no need this step
2. Create Info Pak with FULL UPDATE.and run the Info pak
3. then run the DElte infopak, how the delta is set up..?
May I know what are the steps for FULL Update for FI?.
Thanks!

Difference between delta load and full load

HI,
i am getting confused with full load and delta load.
The scenario is as follows:
I have 4 records which i need to pass to DSO.(Standard DSO)
These are the fields and records.
IO_amount          io_QTY         0UNIT     0CURRENCY     Matnr
1519     195     EA     USD     MM01
2643.85     12     EA     USD     MM02
3580.4     10     EA     USD     MM03
6049.8     12     EA     USD     MM04
Now i need to change the record as
IO_amount          io_QTY         0UNIT     0CURRENCY     Matnr
1500     195     EA     USD     MM01
2643.85     12     EA     USD     MM02
3580.4     10     EA     USD     MM03
6049.8     22     EA     INR     MM04
When i passed it as full and delta load but could not make out any difference..
I can see the data only in active data and change log tables.how can i see that in DSO?
please help out,Points for sure.

Hello Susmitha,
You are right & your view of data is also correct
But only thing here is ODS which you are using mait have Overwright option in its Update Rules /Transformations
Here Q is
Which fields are in KeyFields in DSO Design
If
this Field Values are same in Delta are Full Upload
it will overwrite the records in ODS / DSO
If not
it will add the records to DSO /ODS
Comming to Delta & Full Loads
If you use Full always all data Present will be loaded
if you use Delta always changed & New records will be updated
This happens through Pointers Set ( Snap Shot of Previous Load )
Some tables where you can see RSOLTPSOURCE,RODELTAM etc
Try to wiew this ,Its tough to get
Thanks
Hari

Issue when doing Delta loads from PSA to DSO using DTP - Pls help Urgent

Hi All,
I have done 3 data loads into PSA and from PSA, iam loading the data into DSO - by splitting that load into 3 using 3 DTPs. (Split that by Fiscal Period).
2 of the DTP loads are extracting the data from 3 PSA requests.
But, one of the DTP load is filtering on ONE PSA request.
So, we are not getting the full data into DSO.
Can some one pls help me why the DTP load is beheaving like this ???
Even though i have not given any filters for Request id, still , for one load its picking up the data by filtering on One Req ID.
Cheers,
Nisha

Hi Jr,
Sorry for late reply.
I think i found the solution, the diff between the DTP's is i ahve ticked " Get request one after another " .
I have changed it now and its working fine.
Thanks,
Nisha

How to do delta load after full load

Hi,
I did full loads for my Data target.
I have 15 requests on my Data target.
Now i want to do delta load.
Please help me how to do delta load even after full loads.
Advance thanks.
Regards,
Rafi

Hi,
change in my post!!!
after full load you can go for delta,but it is not viceversa
if you want to run delta
since you have done prior full loads,,do init without data transfer which will sets the init flag
now run delta
please also check is your datasource supports delta or not
try RSA6, datasource and display,
check if 'delta update' is marked
or table ROOSOURCE field DELTA
Cheers,
Swapna.G
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Give difference between full load, delta load, repair full load

Can i run full update after delta load?? if yes tell me a scenario??Can anyone tell me the difference between all three & when to use these??
Regards,
Asish

Hi,
For Repair full load please check OSS note 689964 which is about repairing the full load by executing the program RSSM_SET_REPAIR_FULL_FLAG.
Basically in this you provide your ODS, Data Source and Source System name and execute the program RSSM_SET_REPAIR_FULL_FLAG and hit Repair full load.
It will repair the full load.
But after this you cannot go directly for delta load which is for new added records or changed records. Before delta load do initialization without data loading and then go for delta load.
So delta load will run after init run (without data transfer) and add new added record or changed records to exisitng full upload records.
Technically you cannot go for delta load with out init load.
So, If you have already done full load, you can go for delta load after doing initializing (init load) without data loading.
Hope it helps.
Regards,
Mona

Delta load after full load

Hi gurus
We are doing delta loads to a cube which is initialized in 2007.
Now we have some problem with the data cause 2 deltas are missing for Aug
so I just want to selective deletion for aug and i want to do a full load for aug
my doubt is
after that full load daily delta will be sucessfull?
Thanks in advance
Regards
a

Hi,
Before going on with the load, check the following points:
1. Check if all the delta has been moved up to the cube and all the data request in lower level has datamart status set.
2. If there are some request without data mart status move those reqeust to cube before doing the full load.
Then go for the selective deletion from the cube and reload as full update. You should be able to load delta further. There wont be any problem. Even if you have problem, since you have made sure that all the request has gone up and delta mart has been set in lower level you can break the init and reinit from lower level to current cube.
Hope this is clear.
Regards
akhan

Change delta load selections

Hi Experts
I have a small problem
We created a init infopackage with out selections, but the delta loads we have to give some selections (ex: company code=100), can i create directly inforpackage directly? what is the porcedure i have to follow?
Tnaks&reg
Gita

Hi Gita,
Delta's always run on the setting on which you have run the INIT.
So, you can't make any changes for Delta IP.
Ya, you need to get some selective delta, for this you need to do transport:(
You can do two ways:
You can hard code your selection in the start routine in BW side or in the Extract structure on R/3 side. I don't recommend both of these unless & until requirement is very specific to this selection only & you are not getting data for other company code.
Another way you can do which is flexible & allow you to load for specific selection is:
1. Go to RSA6 on R/3
2. Select your Data source
3. Tick as Selection against Company code.
4. Transport this R/3 change, Replicate data Source on BW side & activate.
5. You will find Company code appearing in data selection Tab. Make an entry there & load that specific data.
Regards,
~!Dpak

Init load, delta load and full load

Hi BW,
Please when can I use init delta, delta and full load in a data load process.
Which of them is suppose to be in a process chain and which one is manual.
Regards.

Hi,
When you want to run delta, you have to initialize it first, thats when you run the init delta.Here you have 2 options with data transfer and without data transfer. If the data target is empty and there's no data, you can run the init with data transfer. This'll act as a full pull and also set up the initialization. If there's data already present, then you are better off running the init w/o data transfer. This dosen't pull over any data, but just sets up the initialization.
Then you can start using the delta pulls.That'll just bring over the changes and any new records rather than the whole data and is much more efficient.
You can use full pulls for say generic datasources that are not delta enabled or during a first time data load, or if there is a specific business requirement that needs you to pull over the full data everyday. Or in cases where the std datasource is not delta enabled.
Cheers,
Kedar

Changing From Full to delta load

Could someone please help with this
i have used a Functional Module to extract data from R/3
i have created a new InfoCube and did a full load and everything is fine
There is NO ODS involved
i now want to change data loads from FULL to DELTAs
Can i do this without using an ODS and RECORDMODE - if so, how?
Thankyou
Pushpa

HI Pushpa,
For generic DS we need to maintain the generic delta. We can define in three ways.
1.Calday
2.Numeric Pinter
3.Timestamp
If we go for calday then there should a field (0calday). Which holds both created and changed the date of the record. We have 1 drawback in this we can only run the load only at the end of the day.
Numeric Pointer will only fetches the changed records.
Most of the time we preffer we go for timestamp.
U will get these option in RSo2 in R/3
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Loading through Process Chains 2 Delta Loads and 1 Full Load (ODS to Cube).

Dear All,
I am loading through Process chains with 2 Delta Loads and 1 Full load from ODS to Cube in 3.5. Am in the development process.
My loading process is:
Start - 2 Delta Loads - 1 Full Load - ODS Activation - Delete Index - Further Update - Delete overlapping requests from infocube - Creating Index.
My question is:
When am loading for the first am getting some data and for the next load i should get as Zero as there is no data for the next load but am getting same no of records for the next load. May be it is taking data from full upload, i guess. Please, guide me.
Krishna.

Hi,
The reason you are getting the same no. of records is as you said (Full load), after running the delta you got all the changed records but after those two delta's again you have a full load step which will pick whole of the data all over again.
The reason you are getting same no. of records is:
1> You are running the chain for the first time.
2> You ran this delta ip's for the first time, as such while initializing these deltas you might have choosen "Initialization without data transfer", as such now when you ran these deltas for the first time they picked whole of the data.Running a full load after that will also pick the same no. of records too.
If the two delats you are talking are one after another then is say u got the data because of some changes, since you are loading for a single ods to a cube both your delta and full will pick same "For the first time " during data marting, for they have the same data source(ODS).
Hope fully this will serve your purpose and will be expedite.
Thax & Regards
Vaibhave Sharma
Edited by: Vaibhave Sharma on Sep 3, 2008 10:28 PM

BI7 : Change full load to delta load - things to do?

http://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/profile/2007/04/30/Differencebetweenfull,intialanddeltaupdatemodes
Difference: Full load, Delta Load & INIT load in BW
Hi.
Since am not familiar with BW request clarity as to how to achieve the following :
We are on BI 7.
On our BW server, One of the Existing process chain loads data as full load daily Till date.
This schedule runs for about 4 to 6 hours during the nights. And the data seems to be growing.
And doing full load, now seems, not that meaningful for data analysis.
So we now feel we need not do a full load every day. But do only the incremental load.
How to make this effective in our existing process chains.
I went thro the 2 links above, but a few things am not clear.
What exactly needs to be done to change a full load into a delta load.
Also do not wish to have any data loss happening.
We run the schedules on a particular process chain for BW around 1 am.
Say from tomorrow I want to have the data loading as delta.
What exactly are the steps to be followed.
Precautions to be taken
So that we have the correct data load and no data is lost - while doing this.
Things to do am not clear :
do initialization with data transfer / or without data tranfer ?
The make it delta?
So that from tomorrow all data loading becomes delta ?
Or
since in our scenario,
daily basis it is full load.
Just make it delta load,
so that whatever changes will run in the next days schedule.
What all things are to be done stepwise.
if anyone could advise.
That would be very helpful.
Also any documentation which explains all these if someone could share the link please ?
Many thanks
indu
Edited by: Indumathy Narayanan on Aug 26, 2011 5:50 PM

Hi,
Kindly look at following links as well
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/44/9821620553053de10000000a1553f6/content.htm
Generic Delta
If a field exists in the extract structure of a DataSource that contains values which increase monotonously over time, you can define delta capability for this DataSource. If such a delta-relevant field exists in the extract structure, such as a timestamp, the system determines the data volume transferred in the delta method by comparing the maximum value transferred with the last load with the amount of data that has since entered the system. Only the data that has newly arrived is transferred.
To get the delta, generic delta management translates the update mode into a selection criterion. The selection of the request is enhanced with an interval for the delta-relevant field. The lower limit of the interval is known from the previous extraction. The upper limit is taken from the current value, such as the timestamp or the time of extraction. You can use security intervals to ensure that all data is taken into consideration in the extractions. After the data request was transferred to the extractor, and the data was extracted, the extractor then informs generic delta management that the pointer can be set to the upper limit of the previously returned interval.
The delta for generic DataSources cannot be used with a BW system release prior to 3.0. In older SAP BW releases, the system does not replicate DataSources for master data and texts that were made delta-enabled using the delta for generic DataSources.
Determining the Generic Delta for a DataSource
       1.      Choose Generic Delta.
       2.      In the subsequent dialog box, specify the delta-determining field and the type for this field.
       3.      Maintain the settings for the generic delta:
                            a.      Specify a security interval.
The purpose of a security interval is to make the system take into consideration records that appear during the extraction process but which remain unextracted (since they have yet to be saved) during the next extraction.
You have the option of adding a security interval to the upper limit/lower limit of the interval.
A security interval should only be specified for the lower limit when the delta method results in a new status for changed records, in other words, when the status is overwritten in BW. In this case, duplicate data records that could arise in such a safety interval have no affect on BW.
                            b.      Choose the delta type for the data to be extracted.
The delta type is used to determine how extracted data is interpreted in BW and which data targets in which it can be posted.
With the delta type additive delta, the record to be loaded for summarizable key figures only returns the change to the key figure. The extracted data is added in BW. DataSources with this delta type can supply both ODS objects and InfoCubes with data.
With the delta type New Status for Changed Records, every record to be loaded returns the new status for all key figures and characteristics. The values are overwritten in BW. DataSources with this delta type can write the data into ODS objects and master data tables.
       4.      Save your entries.
Delta transfer is now possible for this DataSource.
After generating the DataSource, you can see this from the marking for the field Delta Update on the DataSource: Customer Version screen.
In systems from release 4.0B, you can display the current value of the delta-relevant field in the delta queue.
Thanks and regards

Change from Full load to delta load.

Hi Gurus,
I have one ODS object which is extracting data from r/3 system.this ODS object is getting loaded on a daily basis,& it's having heavy volume data (takes almost 8 hours to load).
Now I want to change the load mode of that ODS from FULL load to Delta Load
How can I do that ?
I tried to do* Init without data transfer* from source to this ODS obejct , but while activation it's saying Full load is already loaded so no init
I want to change the load mode of that ODS object without deleting the data,as it takes lot of time to load the total data.
Is there any way to that??
Plz help.Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Kironmoy Banerjee.

RSSM_SET_REPAIR_FULL_FLAG.
1 more question,if run that function module,will it change the existing loads in Repair full mode?
or it will load the total data again.
If you run RSSM_SET_REPAIR_FULL_FLAG Program and give ODS name etc.. it will turn all Full loads to Repair full mode.
Steps:
1. Run that function module.
Run Program RSSM_SET_REPAIR_FULL_FLAG
2. give ODS,data source name.
Yes
3 it will change the existing load to repair full load,
Yes
4.Init without data transfer. (i am not sure if this step is required or not.)
Yes
5.delta load.
Yes
Thanks
Reddy

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