Change dummy profit center to original in New GL Concept

Hello experts
We have implemented New GL Concept in ECC6.0. However, some of the documents posted into various GL accounts had gone to Dummy profit center. Is there any way such that already posted documents with dummy profit center can be assigned corresponding original profit center? As of now due to the common dummy profit center has been assigned to various entries, the plant wise reports are not able to display correct figures because dummy profit center is not apportioned to respective plants.
Similar case is also with Vendor and Customer account balances.
We had already gone trough few notes and one of them (1164356) suggests using a BAdI FAGL_MIGR_SUBST, but its scope / use is somewhat ambiguous. (It suggests some ABAP work in VALIDATE_ITEM method, although this method is not present in its interface.)
Kindly help as early as possible...
Thanks and Regards,
Srinivas

Hi
You are not clear on your post
1) whether you have implemented Document Slitting or not?
2) Mapped Zero Balance account or not and
3) Profit Center and Zero Balance account are checked in document soplitting charactreristiocs or not?
I am posting this reply based on the assumption that you have mapped the above configuration.
If You have assigned Dummy Profit center in FAGL_3KEH, this always overrides the profit center derived, and the system posts with a dummy profit center. Remove the FAGL_3KEH assignment if any so that the system posts to the correct profit Centers.
Now If you have made the configuration as discussed in points 1,2 3 and other document splitting configurations, then removing FAGL_3KEH will force system to look for the profit centers in all the line items and posts only when this is satisfied.
A pre requisite will be "Assign Scenarios and Customer Fields to Ledgers" in FA global Settings(New)> Ledgers>Ledger which should be "Profit Center".
As a concept you may not need assignment of FAGL_3KEH once you have implemented document Splitting.
Hope this clarifies your situation.
Don't Forget to award points
Sarma

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>
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It will be a valuable feed back for below mentioned Scenario.
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01     SURXXX1            100.00         ABCD
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A profit center is a management-oriented organizational unit used for internal controlling purposes. Dividing your company up into profit centers allows you to analyze areas of responsibility and to delegate responsibility to decentralized units, thus treating them as "companies within the company". EC-PCA lets you set up your profit centers according to product (product lines, divisions), geographical areas (regions, offices or production sites) or function (production, sales).
Profit Center Accounting (PCA) allows you to calculate internal measurements of profitability. This internal view of profitability, then, reflects the success of a given profit center at meeting the profitability goal for which it was given responsibility.
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The cost center is an organizational unit in a controlling area. Cost centers can be defined according to several different design approaches. A typical approach could be for an enterprise to define a cost center for each low-level organizational unit that has responsibility for managing costs. As costs are incurred, they are assigned or posted to the appropriate cost center. These costs could include payroll costs, rent and utility costs, or any other costs assignable to a given cost center.
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