Change in Moving Avg.Price after GI
Hi All,
We need your advise to find the root cause of sudden change in the Moving Avg.Price from US $100 to US $10,000 during GI (202 MvT - GI to Costcenter)
Further we observed that within 15 days the MAP has came down to US $132.
Could you please let us know the possible causes of this...
Regards,
Kiran
Hello,
Please use MB51 to analyse all the movements of the material. Also, look at PO history of the Materials for any possible GR/IR maintenance and Invoices for any possibles price adjustments. Other possible reasons are fractional stock quantities, reversal of a transaction that took place in the past and rounding off issues.
Thanks,
Venu
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Dear Gurus,
am trying to change the mov avg price from 192.83 to 200...while doing this in mr21 am getthng error as " Valuation BM11 NOT MAINTAINED FOR MATERIAL 40000001"....kindly suggest me how to solve this issue...Thank you..Hi,
There are the following steps involved in SPLIT VALUATION.
Customization:
1) Create global valuation type
2) Create Global valuation category
3) Activate the valuation type in the valuation category
4) Activate the valuation cateogy in valuation areao/plant
and to achieve the SPLIT valuation after this customization
1) Create material with valuation category in A/C view
2) Create PO with valuation types customized
3) GR with different valutiaon types.
This way SPLIT valuation can be achieved
Revert in case needing any clarification
Regards,
Sachin -
At PGR moving avg price will be changed while pickup the goods from custome
Dear All,
I want clarification at moving avg price while retunrs from customer at consignment scenario.
scenario: goods deliverd with 633 movt type at moving avg price. while returns case with movt type 634 moving avg price was changed.
here user want moving avg price willl be requred same in return at what moving avg price taken in issue 633.
i concerned this with mm consultant , they told its not possible to take like this in returns with moving avg price
is there any possible to take mavg price like this..if possible how?
Regards,
Narendrahi
this is to inform you that,
this is not possible because master data in the system might have got changed from MVP.
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balajia -
Change price control indicator from standard price to moving avg price.
Hi All,
There is a material which has a negative stock for the previous period and the previous period is already closed.
When i want to change the price control indicator from S to V for that material in the current period, it shows an error that "negative stock is there, unable to change price indicator".
Kindly help me to solve this issue.
Thanks,
AKthe price control indicator can be changed from standard price to moving avg price at any time .......with some restrictions.
And one of these restriction is the one you see.
You must not have negative stock.
Hence you have to make the negative stock zero
Since your negative stock is in the previous period, you either have to allow posting into previous periods (trx MMRV , of course Finance has to allow this as well) first. Then you can post e.g. a 202 movement with previous period date which has a quantity that equals your negative quantity. then you change your price control, then you do a 201 movement (again with previous period date), finally you can restrict posting into previous periods again in MMRV.
or you just wait a few days, then with the month end closure your curent period becomes previous period and hopefully you will not have negative stocks again. then you can change the price control without any problem (I usually take care that moving average and standard price are equal befor I change the price control) -
Hi Experts,
What is the difference if price control of finished products in Standard or moving avg price ?
1. I know moving avg price is always change able but Standard price is also changeable if standard price is changable when it change ?
2. If price control is S for finished products then product costing is happened or what !!!
3. Price and qty of FG if it is moving avg price when changed (When GR is happened or when settlement is happened) ?
4. In finished products if price control S , when we run costing run (CK40N) i think price is changed,before it we settlement production order at that time price is also changed
Kindly clarify
Thanks & Regards,
Debashis
Moderator: Please, respect the rules; ask one question per thread and try not to ask 'quiz' questionsHi,
Pl see the answers as below:
What is the difference if price control of finished products in Standard or moving avg price ?
1. I know moving avg price is always change able but Standard price is also changeable if standard price is changable when it change ?
*Ans:You are right on moving avg price that new avg price is calculated after every goods receipt, invoice receipt and order settlement. But in case of price determination "S", all the material movements got updated with standard price only. If Material Ledger is in Active, you can't change the standard price of the Material once you have the movements posted or the status of the Material in CKM3N shows " Quantities and Values Entered"*
2. If price control is S for finished products then product costing is happened or what !!!
Ans: No. This is one of the available valuation method in SAP.
3. Price and qty of FG if it is moving avg price when changed (When GR is happened or when settlement is happened) ?
*Ans: new avg price is calculated after every goods receipt, invoice receipt and order settlement*
4. In finished products if price control S , when we run costing run (CK40N) i think price is changed,before it we settlement production order at that time price is also changed
Ans: When you run CK40N standard price will get updated against the respective material and the same is used against all the material movements.
The main difference between the two valuation procedures is that the moving average price represents a current avg price while the standard price is based on planned values.
In case of Price Control "S" differences to a price difference account and however in case of moving average price, the material stock value in Financial Accounting will get updated.
Regards,
Pandu -
Hi,
I am trying to post invoice for a material and PO but i am getting error message Moving avg price for the material is negative.
Please let me know your views on this.
Helpfull answers will be rewarded.
thanks
SureshHi,
It doesn't mean that if you post higher value of difference then it will post MAP as -ve.
You might be posting higher value than the actual MAP of the material so it affects the MAP and if Difference amount is more than MAP value then this problem occurs.
And it also generates an additional accounting document of "PR" Document Type i.e. Price Change. But in your case, it will not allow to post you the MIRO Document.
If possible, better reverse the GR and change the PO value as per requirement and then do fresh GR and then MIRO.
Otherwise Try and change the material stock value in MR22 - Debit/Credit material stock value. It will not work by changing price in MR21. -
Std price to Moving Avg Price & VICE VERSA
Dear,
Im MM01 - Trnx I maintained Moving Avg price , i want to convert to Std price in the given scenorios
1) Newly created MMR - P.O Created - Mtl not inwarded so far
2) Mtl already transactions done , so many times.
Also explain if its Std price to Moving avg what steps need to be done.
Regards,
Suresh.PHi
Under certain conditions, you can change the type of price control:
From standard price to moving average price :-
You can make this change at any time. The moving average price (which until now has been updated for informational purposes only) replaces the standard price and is used for valuation from now on.
From moving average price to standard price:-
You cannot make this change in the following two cases:
1. If the material master record is set up as a valuation header record for a material subject to split valuation .
2. If the standard price comes from costing and is not equal to the moving average price
If the change is possible, the moving average price becomes the standard price, which is then used for valuation.
You change the type of price control by overwriting the price control indicator in the material master record with the new indicator.
Changing the type of price control for a material does not change the value of the material stock, since in both cases the current price becomes the new price.
I hope it will solve your problem. Please revert back.
Regards
Raj....... -
Why negative stock is possible for Moving avg price & not standard price?
why negative stock is possible for Moving avg price & not standard price?
Hi,
Negative stock is available for both MAP as well as Std. price.
Eg.
MAP-->
1. Mtl with MAP 1 Rs/pc & stock of 10qty.
2. GI done for 15 pcs. Each pcs evaluated with 1Rs (MAP). Stock value reduce by 15Rs. Offsetting entry takes place in consumption account of 15Rs. The stock and stock value is -5 each.
3. Post GR of 10pcs with PO price 3Rs/pc.
Now GR/IR should credited with 30Rs.
Negative stock (which issued) with 1Rs. But incoming mtl. is of 3Rs/pc. So difference of 2Rs for Qty 5 (Neg. stk) of 10Rs. will posted to Price Difference account. And remaining 20Rs posted to stock account.
Std. price.--> step 1,2 remain same
3. Post GR of 10pcs with PO price 3Rs/pc.
Now GR/IR should credited with 30Rs.
Durin GR Stock account posting will be 10Rs but due to negative stk value the net stock value will be 5 Rs. Remaining 20Rs posted to price difference acct.
Regards,
Sandeep -
Changes to moving average price
Dear All,
I need to have a report showing Changes to moving average price for multiple material masters. Please suggest me if there is any standard way of getting it. Or from some tables i can take values.
Regards
MSRHi,
I think there is no std report to find out the MAP of the material.But however you can find the map using MBEW table for that material at that instance. Also you may try to use MDEWH to know the MAP for any period (like previous periods).The downlosd may give you some picture about MAP changes.
Regards, -
Std price and moving avg price
hii frends...in which scenario we hve to go for std price and moving avg price...
thnx in adv...Generally all raw materials (ROH), spare parts (ERSA), traded goods (HAWA) etc. are assigned as moving average price (MAP) because of the accounting practice of accurately valuating the inventory of such materials. These materials are subject to the purchase price fluctuations on a regular basis.
Company generally uses moving average on purchased materials with small cost fluctuations. It is most appropriate when the item is easily obtainable. The impact on margins are minimized which reduces the need for variance analysis. Furthermore, the administrative effort is low as there are no cost estimates to maintain. The cost reflects variances, which are closer to actual costs.
The semi-finished goods (HALB) and finished products (FERT) are valuated with standard price because of the product costing angle. If these were to be MAP controlled, then finished/semi-finished product valuation would fluctuate due to data entry errors during back flushing of material and labor, production inefficiencies (higher cost) or efficiencies (lower cost). This is not a standard accounting and costing practice.
Hope this will help you.
Cheers,
Parag Mahajan -
How change the moving average prices?If run costing done In the MR21 system
hI,
How change the moving average prices?If run costing done In the MR21 system notallowing the changing the prices?
Regards
ChannaHi
Showingerror
A current or future standard price exists for material 300000007
Message no. CKPRCH025
Diagnosis
A current or future cost estimate exists.
Procedure
You can set the price of a marked cost estimate through the radio button 'Default Planned Prices' and release it by saving.
Please what is the process changing moving aveerage prices -
Material Master Change Pointer IDOCs not generated for Moving Avg Price GR
No IDOC is created or distributed when the moving average price
changes. Each time a Goods Receipt is performed, the material master
moving average price (MBEW-VERPR) changes but the change is not
distributed. No change pointer is created in the tables. Why?
We need to send the moving average price each time it changes. In our
case, each time a Inbound Delivery has been Post Goods Receipt this
value changes for that material + plant combination and the value
should be sent.
The field MBEW-VERPR is included in BD52 as a field relevant for change
pointers for the message type.
Please advise.Hello,
SAP will not generate change pointers (and no IDOCs) for Moving Average Price (MAP) changes. This is because MAP updates are not really Master Data changes and they are driven by transactions such as Goods Receipts, Revaluations etc. For these transactions, SAP will generate respective accouting documents for traceability.
Thanks,
Venu -
Accounting view:Moving avg price and standard price
Dear Friends,
Can anyone explain what for these two fiels are maintained?.....also what difference it makes with the price we maintain thru pricing procedure(considering only PR00)?......can both the prices be at the same value?......Thanks in advancehi
The system calculates the moving average price automatically by dividing
the material value in the stock account by the total of all storage
location stocks in the plant concerned. It changes the price with each
valuation-relevant movement.
The system changes the periodic unit price if you settle the material
ledger and then save the data.
The valuation of stocks at moving average price or periodic unit price
means that the price of the material is adapted to the continual
fluctuations in the procurement price.
Standard price
Standard price of the material
Use
The valuation of material stocks at standard prices means that all goods
movements are valuated at the same price over an extended period.
Procedure
Price variances (for example, purchase price higher than standard price)
upon goods receipt or invoice receipt are posted by the system to price
difference accounts. This does not affect the standard price. -
-ve price change in Moving average Price of Material in Material Master.
Dear All,
Kindly guide on below issue.
We have a Material e.g A which stock was available in System let us say 10 qty & the Price per unit was Rs.10. But in last August some users chagned the price to Rs.5 because of whcih the Valuation in previous period has become negative.
Now I have to rectify this. Now please tell me how can I do so.
Also Note: there are sevral other Movements have happened since then i.e. GR, IR, Consumption for Production etc.
This is very important.
Regards,For negative MAP , there are steps which are given in SAP note 356757. Follow this steps to overcome this issue.
The notes goes as...
Summary
Symptom
When you try to post an invoice for the purchase order, the system generates error message M8783: 'Moving average price for material & & & is negative'.
Additional key words
MRHR, MR1M, MIRO, MMVAL, M8783
Cause and prerequisites
You posted a valuated goods receipt for a purchasing document for a material with moving average price control.When the invoice was posted (invoice item with price variance for goods receipt), the system generates error message M8783: 'Moving average price for material & & & is negative'.
Between the posting of the original goods receipt and the entry of the invoice, the system already posted additional valuation-relevant transactions/events (goods movements, invoices and so on, can be displayed with Transaction MR51).
The invoice verification tries (for stock coverage) to credit/subsequently debit the difference between the value of goods received and invoice item value for the stock.However, the material total value must not become negative by this stock posting.
Solution
Before you post the invoice, you must first increase the stock value.
The amount by which the stock value must be increased at least can be calculated from the following values:
1. Transaction MM03, accounting view material master, field 'Total value' (MBEW-SALK3)
2. Invoice item value according to invoice
3. In the invoice verification (Transaction MR01, MR1M, MIRO), change the invoice item amount to a value which is high enough and simulate the invoice to receive the value which would be posted for this item to the GR/IR account.
In the invoice verification, the value (3) minus (2) is posted to stock. It must be larger than (1).Post a subsequent debit with the amount (3) + (1) - (2) for the affected material/plant (Transaction MR22).
You can post the invoice afterwards. -
Unexpected change in moving average price
Hello All,
As per my understanding, the material moving average price will only be changed when there are any new receiving with different material price. However, the situation for this material average price is not as what I expected, it has unexpectedly rise for two days and then again became normal.
I have checked and found that only 261 movement was carried out.
I have also checked in invoice, but nothing is wrong in that.
Kindly guide me on the same.
Regards,
JoginderHi Joginder,
The MAP is recalculated at every relevant movement & invoice. Please
review the following notes which explain how the MAP is calculated and
what can change the MAP.
518485 FAQ: Valuation of goods movements
518368 FAQ: Valuation for the purchase order
209864 Moving average price is disproportionately large
185961 Moving Average Price Calculation
Regards,
Kevin
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