Change organizational plan - workflow

Hi experts,
the client asks me to develop a routine in order to update, automatically, the agents of workitem when organizational plan changes. Is this possible in SAP ECC 6.0 ? Are there tables which track changes to organizational plan? Are there any exit on organizational plan save?
Thanks and regards
Antonella

You can make use of the following business Object
ORGUNITEXT Enhanced Organizational Unit
PDOTYPE_SH HR Position
PD_1001 PD Infotype Relationship (1001)
Check whether any event is getting triggered for this BO when you are changing Organization Plan and use accordingly.
Thanks
Arghadip

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I do not want to change my plan, but want to upgrade my device is that possible anymore?

I want to upgrade my families phones but i do not want to change my plans one bit, will the big bad cell phone company let me do that or are they going to be horrible and make me change and yes I will only have a smart phone.

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The dealer we made contract for iphone 4 has moved, or disappeared, i don't know, so my mom had to find another verizon dealer who speaks Korean,
because she doesn't speak English at all - but she's the one who take care of the bills and this kind of stuffs as she has more available time than me.
I wanted iphone 5 when it was released, but wasn't really sure about paying for it to get upgraded because iphone 4 was doing pretty well enough for me.
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iphone 5 for me, and Samsung note 3 for her.
I was like - 'Samsung maybe offer some sort of special rate, but I'm pretty sure Apple wouldn't sell their just-newly-released-phone for much low price than 2yr contract price.'
and my mom was like ' i don't know but they said they can do it for sure' - so i was like Ok, why not .
I guess that's about an year and half ago.
Now iphone 6 is here, and i looked up on my verizon account and Sadly, my contract ends next May or something.
So I told my mom about Verizon's iphone trade-in offer and I feel sad about that I am not eligible for it right now.
My mom happened to visit this dealer again to add a new line in our plan, and she asked about that trade-in offer and mention that her daughter (me)
is sad that she is not eligible.
And that evening, my mom told me that they said they can do this trade-in thing for me.
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and she was like 'how do i know? they said they can do it so just told me to bring the old phone'
Well my mom, is 54 years old Korean born woman, who doesn't know about technology, English, or any complicated stuffs.
She doesn't even know what the term 'trade-in' means, so that I even had to explain her like it's an offer from verizon you give them old iphone 4 or above, and they give you $200 certificate. But only for new 2yr contracts.
She was like 'well, she said she ordered it already so just go pick it up'
She normally picks up the phone for me (since she's always around K-town, but im not) but today, I happened to have free time on afternoon, and she had some appointment so I had to go visit the dealer to pick up the phone.
So I went in, they were nice and kind, recognized my mom by mentioning her name.
She, the dealer, was a bit busy helping out other customer so I had to wait for a while -
While i was waiting for her, I just looked around inside of the store - like TV screens promoting new phones, and new plans and stuffs.
Finally she got back to me and brought out the iphone 6 from back -
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'Not sure if you know, but your contract has not been end - so it's going to be like returning and getting back with the EDGE' (speaking Korean)
If i didn't see the 'EDGE' plan stuffs from the TV screen, i probably would just go ok- ok- ok- thanks.
But when she just mentioned 'EDGE', i felt something is not right.
so I asked her, what exactly the 'EDGE' is, and what is being changed.
she hesitated a bit -and said
'Um... so you now have 6 GB data.. and ..'
i was like what? no no. we have unlimited data plan since our very first smartphone - and we never changed plan and tried keep the plan when even we lost one of our phone.
then she was like
"um...but..it seems like it changed.."
SO i asked When did it changed.
and she was like "i don't know. But you guys use only 3GB anyway"
I was like ' well, that's not important how much we actually use our data. the thing is we never changed our plan to keep the unlimited data plan'
and she just ignored it and move to next issue - setting up the new iphone 6 for my number.
she was like 'You don't need to give us the old phone. the payments will be billed to your statement and it's going to be.."
She was saying everything quickly and just briefly in Korean. She sounds like YOU DON'T HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING FOR THE PHONE.
I didn't even know there is such thing like payment plan for buying a phone BEFORE I saw it on TV SCREEN while i was waiting.
And those promoting screens was made in English, while most of their customers are Korean who doesn't know English much.
and i was like "what? what payment? Are you saying I don't have to pay for the phone OR are you saying I'm paying for the phone every month?"
She was like " uh... I mean.. there's certain payment amount you are paying for iphone 5 currently, and this plan, there will be about $10 difference for the phone payment...and.."
I'm a person who raised in Korean till highschool I speak Much better Korean than English, but I was hard to understand what she was exactly saying
because she was saying everything so complicated.
So I tried to clarify: "Ok. so this phone - I am not getting it for free. Right?"
then she was like 'uh...yes - it's now free but you don't have to pay anything right now'
So I clarified again " so that means, I'm buying the phone. not free. right?"
and she was like "uh..but it's not that you buy this right now. It's about $30... so.."
She then was saying this very unclearly so that she sounded like the phone only costs $30.
"then why did you tell my mom that you can to trade-in deal for me?" I asked.
then she was like "I didn't tell her I can do trade-in. It's not trade-in"
So I told her" OK, as you know, she doesn't know about anything about this kind of stuffs. she doesn't even know the word 'trade-in' in English. She said she asked you about we bringing you the old phone and you get us $200 gift card so we would use that card to buy iphone 6 and she told me that you said YES YOU CAN DO IT, SO BRING THE IPHONE 4"
She paused for a while, and I asked her again "and what's up with the change of plan? Our plan was unlimited data. Did you tell my mom about changing the plan? If she knew plan's being changed, she would not do this with you, or she always asks me before signing a contract if there's any change. All i remember is you are getting us decent phones only for $75. How can you explain about this?"
I was amazed after hearing her answer
"I don't know"
and her kind attitude was gone, she was like 'i don't have nothing to do or say'
I was so mad, told her to cancel the iphone 6, and I just left the store.
I'm not a person related to the law, but I've met some lawyer few times with my friends, and I remember hearing this story about fraud -
although the customer signed the contract on a stack of paper with small letters saying all about the terms and condition -
if the customer was been told differently than the actual contract info by seller,and the seller took advantage from it, then that could be counted as fraud.
I felt so conned and so sorry for my mom. I told her the story and she's mad, too.
My mom and I will look up the old statement and check records to see if we were paying for our phone during current contract and visit the dealer again if we find something odd.
But as from the story above, the dealer goes like she doesn't know anything about plan changes (even it was something she did) - so I don't really wanna talk about it with her.
So I was wondering if anyone knows if it is possible to go back to our old plan in the case when the plan was changed without user's acknowledgement.
Sorry to let you read this long story, sorry about temper.. but does anybody have idea on this sort of cases?

yes I knew it was too good to be true, so i was worried but their answer was don't worry it can be done, we are the authorized dealer.
If they fully told us about it, I wouldn't even upgrade my phone and just kept it up with my iphone 4 which I think is still working good for me.
ahh... I just feel so bad
I mean i might be ok with 6gb as we actually don't use that much for the most of the time, but still. This is wrong.
And they tried to do exactly same thing again. and just ignored the issue when I brought it up.
The reason I'm mad and want to get back my old plan is mainly because I feel we've been conned and lost something that we would not have lost without knowing it - and they knew about it all but hid it.
I don't know.. not just about losing the plan... but I think this is so wrong.

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