Change run attribute
hi to all
please give the answers to these following questions
14.If we archive the ODS data from which table it takes the data
15.What is mean by change run attribute , its use?
thanks
shah
14: I would expect that the active data will be archived.
15: The attribute change run aligns aggregates containing navigation attributes.
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BWonHANA: Attribute Change Runs (ACR)
Dear all,
I have a question regarding Attribute Change Runs (ACR) in BW system running on HANA.
According document: Attribute Change Run it suggests that ACR may not be needed in BW running on HANA DB. However I'm looking for some experience in this topic. So is ACR needed? If so does it run faster comparing to legacy DB?
thank you
m./Hi Martin,
go through below thread for existing experience:
Program to run Attribute Change run
Attribute Change Run – Strategies and Parameters
Attribute Change Run concepts - SAP NetWeaver Business Warehouse - SCN Wiki
LET'S BE BETTER IN SAP BI: Why Attribute Change Run in SAP BI 7.0 is required?
Regards,
V Srinivasan -
Effect of Full Attribute Extract on Aggregate Attribute Change Run
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My question is does the system look to see if any information has changed between the new and old values or does it assume since there is a new version for every entry that 100% of the values have changed?
The reason I'm asking is BW appears to be rebuilding this aggregate from scratch each day instead of changing the aggregate for the few entries that actually changed.I did a FULL extract for 0CUST_SALES in our QA system. It transferred 28617 records. When I look into the monitor > processing > data package 1 > update I see the following:
3 data records in table /BI0/XCUST_SALES marked for deletion
3 data records inserted in table /BI0/XCUST_SALES
3 data records n table /BI0/PCUST_SALES marked for deletion
3 data records inserted in table /BI0/PCUST_SALES
Different database operations were executed
When I run the attribute change I see the following messages:
The Change Run is executing
Attribute 0CUST_SALES__ZZROUTE for basic characteristic 0CUST_SALES: 2 changes
Attribute 0CUST_SALES__0BILLTOPRTY for basic characteristic 0CUST_SALES: 2 changes
Attribute 0CUST_SALES__0PAYER for basic characteristic 0CUST_SALES: 2 changes
Attribute 0CUST_SALES__ZZACGRP for basic characteristic 0CUST_SALES: 2 changes
0001 ZSD_C02 100016 Aggregates Will Be Adjusted by:Reconstruction
0002 ZSD_C02 100019 Aggregates Will Be Adjusted by:Reconstruction
After seeing this i revisited the documentation for threshold value in RSCUSTV8. Ours is BLANK! So according to the documents when it is blank the aggregate is reconstructed generally. Not what we want!!
I will change the setting to the suggested 20% to start and we'll work from there.
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Attribute Change run taking too long time to complete.
Hi all,
Attribute change run has been taking too long time to complete.It has to realign 50 odd aggreagates, some by delta , some by reconstruction. But inspite of all the aggregates it used to finish in quick time earlier. But since last 4-5 days it is taking indefinite time to finish.
Can anyone please suggest what all reasons may be causing this? and what possibly can be the solution to the problem? It is becoming a big issue. So kindly help with ur advises.
Promise to reward your answer liberally.
Regards,
Pradyut.Hi,
Check with your functional owners in R/3 if there are mass changes/realignments or classification changes are going on regarding master data. e.g. reasigning materials to other material groups. This causes a major realignment in BW for all the aggregates. Otherwise check for parameterchanges / patches or missing db stats with your sap basis team.
Kind regards, Patrick Rieken. -
ERROR while running attribute change run.
hi sap xperts,
I got an error while running the attribute change run in a process chain.
At first i got an error "The action is locked by a change run"
SO I DID THE FOLLOWING STEPS.
1.RUN ATTRIB CHANGE RUN MANUALLY IT RUN SUCCESSFULLY,but the process chain is still red.
Q1.Is there any way to link the manually run attrib chnage to process chain so that the process chain becomes Green?
2.SM12 - realease the locks and right click the pc and repeat.It didn't work
Q1.While removing the locks what should we remove,bcoz i removed all the locks?
3.I again removed the lock and repeat the process but still i didn't work.Now its chowing "SQL ERROR OCCURED WHILE ACCESSING"
So the Process chain got stuck,Can any body help me to run the attrib chnage run.
If possible can anybody send the Process chain monitoring documents to my email id:
<email ID removed>
please.thanks in advance,i know how to say thanks in sdn.At any point in time only one attribute change run can run in the system. The other ACR's will fail due to locks. In your case, to set the process chain to green, try the following steps.
Open the messages of a failed step by right clicking on it and selecting 'display messages'.
In the opened popup click on the tab 'Chain'.
In a parallel session goto transaction se16 for table rspcprocesslog and display the entries with the following selections:
1. copy the variant from the popup to the variante of table rspcprocesslog
2. copy the instance from the popup to the instance of table rspcprocesslog
3. copy the start date from the popup to the batchdate of table rspcprocesslog
Press F8 to display the entries of table rspcprocesslog.
Now open another session and goto transaction se37. Enter RSPC_PROCESS_FINISH as the name of the function module and run the fm in test mode.
Now copy the entries of table rspcprocesslog to the input parameters of the function module like described as follows:
1. rspcprocesslog-log_id -> i_logid
2. rspcprocesslog-type -> i_type
3. rspcprocesslog-variante -> i_variant
4. rspcprocesslog-instance -> i_instance
5. enter 'G' for parameter i_state (sets the status to green).
Now press F8 to run the fm.
The above steps will help you continue with the rest of the process chain (thus avoiding manual runs) but the failed step might still remain red. Hope this helps. -
Attribute change run problem - infoobject is not listed in the list
Hi folks,
When I load master data for 0customer, the infoobject 0customer doesnt come in the infoobject list for attribute change run. Also, when I try to activate master data manually it says 'Master Data already active'. and the reality is M version of Data is not active.
Can you guide me.Try running the program RSDMD_CHECKPRG_ALL for this infoobject. You can select all the options when running this program.
Try running this program multiple times, coz my experience showed that initial run may not always fix this issue.
Good luck! -
Hi i have 50 infoobjects as part of my aggregates and in that 10 infoobjects have received changes in masterdata.so in my process chain the Attribute change run in running for a long time.can i kill the job and repeat the same.
Hi,
I believe this would be your Prod system, so don't just cancel it but look at the job log. If it is still processing then don't kill it and wait for the change run to complete but if you can see that nothing is happening and it is stuck for a long time then you can go ahead and cancel it.
But please be sure, as these kind of jobs can create problems if you cancel them in the middle of a job.
Regards,
Arminder Singh -
Getting no attributes changes after change run monitor program is executed
Hi ,
We have a z-program where we are calling function module RSDDS_CHANGE_MONITOR . The structure of this function module is changes after upgrade from BI 3.5 to 7.0. Accordingly i have adjusted the z-program . But the result is No Attribute Change Run Found .
The function module called is as follows
CALL FUNCTION 'RSDDS_CHANGERUN_MONITOR'
EXPORTING
I_WITH_DETAILS = RS_C_TRUE
I_T_CHABASNM =
I_T_HIEID =
IMPORTING
E_TS_STATE_CR = l_cr_state
E_TS_CHANM_IN_AGGR = l_t_chanm
E_TS_HIER_CR = l_t_hieid
E_TS_CHABASNM_CR =
E_T_AGGREGATE_CR = l_t_aggrstate
E_TS_TREXAGGR_CR =
E_TSX_MSG_CR = l_t_msg
EXCEPTIONS
ERROR = 1
OTHERS = 2
IF SY-SUBRC <> 0.
MESSAGE ID SY-MSGID TYPE SY-MSGTY NUMBER SY-MSGNO
WITH SY-MSGV1 SY-MSGV2 SY-MSGV3 SY-MSGV4.
ENDIF.
The l_cr_state has the details of the status in BI 7.0
But after upgrade , its empty.
Pls help on the issue.
Regards,
Saranggo through this link:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/64/32a5682e6a4e0cbb3f8a33970d11a8/frameset.htm -
ABAP program to add in the process chain before the attribute change run
Hi
I need a ABAP program to add in the process chain before the attribute change run(process) to avoid the locks, can any one send me the program
Regards,
SatishI am not sure of any standard program .... but you can write your own... should be a small one..
you can check if the table RSDMDENQ has entry for your InfoObject... if yes, then its locked.. if not.. its not locked -
Problem in Activating Hierarchy Attribute change run through process chain.
Hi All,
I have the problem in Hierarchy change run processw running through process chain..and also process chain completes successfully without any error..
Even hierarchy change run completes successfully the hierarchy objects are not activating,
so daily when i have to activate hierarchy objects manually..
and what i did was in one attributechange run process i have included 10 hierarchy object is it correct or else i have to separatly create 10 attribute change hierachy proceess in the process chain.. pls through some lights on this issue
With regards,
HariHi venkat,
Yes.. i already include the save hierarchies process in process chain...
my main problem is hierarchy infobject are not activating using process chain and also even process chain is not giving error message.. and in which log table the hierarchy objects are maintained (such as run time, date , status etc..).
IS there is any other settings to be made in process chain..
with regards,
hari -
Issue: attributes change run triggers the rebuilt of 0IC_C03 aggregates
Hello Guru,
I am facing to a problem that I don't understand.
Here is below the detail of the messages of a '3-infoobjects attributes change run' step of a Master Data process chain.
22:06:14 Job started
22:06:14 Step 001 started (program RSPROCESS, variant &0000000231235, user ID RFC_BW)
22:06:16 Starting process type ATTRIBCHAN with 3 objects...
22:06:16 Program RSBATCH_EXECUTE_PROZESS successfully scheduled as job BICHNG_D8FC4Q04UD7NGLDMZ0QUBLX4K with ID 22061600
22:06:16 Editing of aggregate 100139; background job BICHNG_D8FC4Q04UD7NGLDMZ0QUBLX4K; start time 22:06:16/07.07.2010
22:06:18 Program RSBATCH_EXECUTE_PROZESS successfully scheduled as job BICHNG_D8FC4Q04UD7NGLDMZ0QUBLX4K with ID 22061601
22:06:18 Editing of aggregate 100143; background job BICHNG_D8FC4Q04UD7NGLDMZ0QUBLX4K; start time 22:06:18/07.07.2010
23:02:29 Program RSBATCH_EXECUTE_PROZESS successfully scheduled as job BICHNG_D8FC4Q04UD7NGLDMZ0QUBLX4K with ID 23022900
23:02:29 Editing of aggregate 100140; background job BICHNG_D8FC4Q04UD7NGLDMZ0QUBLX4K; start time 23:02:29/07.07.2010
23:52:38 Starting process type MDHIERACT with 2 objects...
23:52:39 Program RSBATCH_EXECUTE_PROZESS successfully scheduled as job BIACTI_D8FCR9Y1NWOP2T4F76FYE0HDG with ID 23523900
23:52:39 Program RSBATCH_EXECUTE_PROZESS successfully scheduled as job BIACTI_D8FCR9Y1NWOP2T4F76FYE0HDG with ID 23523901
23:53:10 Aggregate 100139: Repair indexes
23:57:14 Aggregate 100140: Repair indexes
00:17:23 Aggregate 100143: Repair indexes
00:50:09 3 aggregates are condensed
00:50:09 Starting process type CONDAGGR with 3 objects...
00:50:10 Program RSBATCH_EXECUTE_PROZESS successfully scheduled as job BICOND_D8FD3GTNF0KF92R34346SW6PG with ID 00501000
00:50:10 Editing of aggregate 100143; background job BICOND_D8FD3GTNF0KF92R34346SW6PG; start time 00:50:10/08.07.2010
00:50:10 Program RSBATCH_EXECUTE_PROZESS successfully scheduled as job BICOND_D8FD3GTNF0KF92R34346SW6PG with ID 00501001
00:50:10 Editing of aggregate 100140; background job BICOND_D8FD3GTNF0KF92R34346SW6PG; start time 00:50:10/08.07.2010
00:50:16 Program RSBATCH_EXECUTE_PROZESS successfully scheduled as job BICOND_D8FD3GTNF0KF92R34346SW6PG with ID 00501600
00:50:16 Editing of aggregate 100139; background job BICOND_D8FD3GTNF0KF92R34346SW6PG; start time 00:50:16/08.07.2010
00:50:22 Hierarchy/attribute change successfully carried out
00:50:23 Event RSPROCESS with parameter D59BE8XWZMHY0IFP2VLEFP671 successfully triggered
00:50:23 Job finished
As you can observe, the step takes almost 3 hours !!!!!!! After anlyses BICHNG_* concerns
22:06:16 Job started
22:06:16 Step 001 started (program RSBATCH_EXECUTE_PROZESS, variant &0000000891873, user ID RFC_BW)
22:06:18 Aggregate 100139( 0IC_C03) is being adapted / rebuilt
22:06:18 Statistic UID of the aggregate process: 'D8FC4Q9KSAMRDWQ1RDPPKMF3O' (RSDDSTATAGGR)
22:06:27 Aggregate 100139: Read (1) from table /BI0/E0ICC03_ (max 500000 records)22:06:27 SQL: 07.07.2010 22:06:27 RFC_BW
I don't understand what is the link between the '3-infoobjects attributes change run' (BBATCH, 0MAT_SALES, 0MAT_PLANT) and the rebuilt of 3 0IC_C03 (Material Stocks/Movements) aggregates (why does the 'attribute chan run' trigger the rebuit of aggregates???).
The rebuilt of the 3 aggregates takes 1 416, 3 366, 3 009 secondes...
Does anyone understand my problematic? If not I can give you more details.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Samuel1/ Exactly Fred
Here is the definitions of the aggregate:
100139:
0PLANT
0STOR_LOC
0MAT_PLANT__0VAL_CLASS
0STOCKCAT
0STOCKTYPE
BMODIFIC
BMVTSTOCK
0MATL_TYPE
0CALxxx
2/ For my information in the aggregate 100140 , does the presence of BBATCH (one of the 3 IO) trigger the rebuilt or is it only 0MAT_PLANT__0VAL_CLASS ?
100140:
0PLANT
0STOR_LOC
0MATERIAL
0MAT_PLANT__0VAL_CLASS
BBATCH
0STOCKCAT
0STOCKTYPE
BMODIFIC
BMVTSTOCK
0MATL_TYPE
0CALxxx
3/ In the same process chain, I have another Attributes Change Run: 0MATERIAL. Several active aggregates using 0MATERIAL__0MATL_TYPE are built on a CO-PA cube.
Why did the '0MATERIAL Attributes Change Run' rebuild no aggregate? (see below)
22:06:04 Job started
22:06:04 Step 001 started (program RSPROCESS, variant &0000000231238, user ID RFC_BW)
22:06:06 Activation of master data for 0MATERIAL
22:06:07 154 Data records deleted
22:06:11 154 Data records deleted
22:06:12 154 Data records updated
22:06:13 154 Data records updated
22:06:13 0 aggregates are condensed
22:06:14 Hierarchy/attribute change successfully carried out
22:06:14 Event RSPROCESS with parameter D59BEEE069HKRCRU0ZPYFUPB1 successfully triggered
22:06:14 Job finished
Samuel -
Regarding attribute change runs in process chains
Hi All,
While creating process chain for master data objects. I am trying to incorporate attribute change run process type for an info object. But the system asks for the DTP of the attribute and when i choose the DTP then both DTP and then Attribute are being incorporated. This is not exactly a problem but i need to understand why it is happening as i am already using that DTP to load data. Will this affect the data in master data object?. Thanks in advance.
regards
satishHi Bhagyarekha,
The reason behind that error could be:
An attempt is made to activate a characteristic whose compounding was replaced and whose navigation attributes were simultaneously deleted. The replacement of the compounding temporarily deletes the M view of the characteristic during internal activation. The process of deleting navigation attributes involves converting the attribute SID tables. However, the M-view of the characteristic, which has just been deleted, is needed for this conversion.
Check this SAP Note:
Note 684405 - Replacing the compounding and deleting navigation attr.
Hope it helps.
Veerendra. -
Attribute Change Run taking very Long time.
Hi Experts:
We are daily loading Master data from one common process chain. There are 33 Infoobjects which are getting activated in Attribute Change Run Process. This process is taking almost 3 hours to run daily; due to this it is impacting our other data load process chains.
Many times it happens that there is lock on cubes due to attribute change as attributes are getting aligned to same cube on which the roll up is running.
There are local chains below the attribute change run, which are also important to run.
Please help and suggest the workaround for the same.
Cheers,
Omkar33 info objects in one ACR(attribute change run) is not a good idea.
Better to split the info objects and use multiple ACR.
During your ACR if transaction data load was on then lock issues always occurs.
Thats why we need to run master data loads first and later transaction data loads.
Which info object change run was troubling, better to note the info objects which are causing and try to put them in separate ACR and trigger it before start of your transaction data loads. so that it won't raise the same issue again. -
Attribute Change Run in Process Chain failed with SQL 942 error
Hi,
Attribute change run in th eprocess chain failed with the message " SQL Error 942" and ran succesfully after repeating the step.Searched in Forums for similar error but the solutions were not apt.
Any pointers would be of great help!!
Thanks in advance,
Bhagyarekha.Hi Bhagyarekha,
The reason behind that error could be:
An attempt is made to activate a characteristic whose compounding was replaced and whose navigation attributes were simultaneously deleted. The replacement of the compounding temporarily deletes the M view of the characteristic during internal activation. The process of deleting navigation attributes involves converting the attribute SID tables. However, the M-view of the characteristic, which has just been deleted, is needed for this conversion.
Check this SAP Note:
Note 684405 - Replacing the compounding and deleting navigation attr.
Hope it helps.
Veerendra. -
Use of Process type Attribute Change Run and Rollup in Process Chaning
Hi SAP Gurus,
I have a doubt about the use of process types Attribute Change Run and Roll up in PC
If any1 can clear my doubts it would be helpful
if possible if any1 can tell me about the list of process types available in Process Chains it would be helpful
Thanks in advanceChange run process is used to re-activate the Attributes after changes
Roll up process is used to refresh a target (example : aggregates) after new data are uploaded into a Cube
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