Change swatches from CMYK to RGB

Okay so I've just realised that my documents are CMYK and have changed the settings to RGB (File > Document color mode > RGB and from the colour fly out menu) although I notice that when I hover my mouse over the colors in the swatches panel that it shows me the CMYK values.
Could someone please assist me with this as I'm not sure why this is happening.
Thanks in advance

to change color definitions--from the 'color' menu select the flyout menu in the upper right corner (indicated in attached pics) and change from cmyk to rgb

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