Change to Extract Structure Doubt

Hi,
Our Basis Folks are trying to install Patch 6 ST-PI 2005_1_700 in ECC. I refered to OSS Note 328181.
For this Patch do we need to delete the Set up Table and Fill it again? And How about Init Delta in BW?
Please suggest me. Any answers will be appreciated with Points.
Kind Regards
Mahesh.N

Hello,
Yes you have to delete the Setup table data before that as per the OSS Note you have to clear the delta queue data which cannot be recovered after changing the extract structure. So execute the BW Delta Infopackages and make sure there is no delta records in RSA7 or LBWQ.
Then you can delete the setup table using LBWG and implement the patch.
1. Make sure that the following steps are carried out at a time when no updates are performed so that no data is lost.
2. Start the update collective run directly from within the Customizing Cockpit. Up to PI(-A) 2001.2 , this collective run exclusively concerns the V3 update. As of PI(-A) 2002.1, depending on the update mode setting of the application, the collective run concerns either the V3 update or the update from the extraction queue ("Delta Queued", see Note 505700).
3. Load all data of the respective DataSource into the BW System.
Now you can make the change.
After a change you can no longer use the statistical data already recreated. If such data still exists, you should delete it (Transaction LBWG).
We recommend in particular to upload the data immediately after a restructuring and (after checking in BW) delete them from the restructuring tables.
Moreover, the update log (Transaction LBWF) can no longer be read. Post a document in this case so that the last log entry is overwritten. This log entry then has the correct new format of the extract structure.
As of PI 2000.2 the program RMCEXDELETELOG is available. It can be used to delete log entries.
But if there is any change in lenght of any field of the extract structure, then you have to reload the entire data again in BW otherwise a Init without data transfer will do.
But what is the patch all about? Please follow the instruction given in the OSS Note 328181 - Changes to extract structures in Customizing Cockpit.
Thanks
Chandran

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