Changed Key command - Tie Regions By Position Change

This is my 3rd post - Is there no one else here who depended on "Tie Regions By Position Change" & finds the new version "Shuffle regions left within selection" unpredictable & unusable, with regions that shouldn't jumping to the right ?

It doesnt work as expected for me, with 5 or 6 regions it does but when i want to buffer 40 or so regions , up against each other, several have jumped to unpredictable positions . (i'm doing lots of editing of interviews )

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Unusable new version of key command "Tie regions by position change"

I have had to go back to Logic 8 because I use I use "Tie regions by position change" all the time & the new version in Logic 9 - "Shuffle regions left within selection" behaves very differently & unpredictably.
With 3 or 4 regions it works in a predictable way, but larger than that I can't predict what its doing. Some regions jump far to the right to positions I dont want.
I put lots of regions, with their start points in the order I want them, with "Tie regions by position change" It buffered them all together, in that order, in one go.
With "Shuffle regions left within selection" occasional regions are jumping several places to the right & the order is unpredictable. & you have to issue the command several times with large numbers of audio regions untill it finishes arranging them.
is this a bug or is shuffle meant as in "shuffle a deck of cards" ?
I would like to explore Logic 9 but without this function it is unusable for me.

It doesnt work as expected for me, with 5 or 6 regions it does but when i want to buffer 40 or so regions , up against each other, several have jumped to unpredictable positions . (i'm doing lots of editing of interviews )

Not here! Region Tie Regions by Position Change (Logic9)

I have just upgraded to Logic9 and am looking though the new style instruction manual.
On the 'Adding or Removing Arrangement Passages' page at the 'remove gaps between regions' part it says Choose Region > Tie Regions by Position Change (or use the Tie Regions by Position Change key command).
The thing is, that the 'Tie Regions by Position Change' is not under the local menu Region and the KC
is no where to be found either. Has anybody else seen this at all.
There is the option 'Trim Regions etc' under Regions though no Tie Regions.
Thanks
Message was edited by: ekaton
Message was edited by: ekaton

Must be Region > Shuffle Regions left within selection then

Tie Regions by position change.

As I understand the "Tie Regions by Length Change" is now named "Trim Region End to Next Region".
OK. What about "Tie Regions by position change"? I've search for it and is not there.

Andreww Adrian wrote:
I'll check, but isn't Shuffle a randomization way of ordering items???
In Logic, no. If you ask a drummer to play shuffle - sometimes yes.

Key commands changed

What has happened in Logic 9 to the key command "Tie Regions By Position Change" . I have imported my Logic 8 Key commands & several have changed but I constantly use this key command. Can anyone help ?

No I spoke too soon, it's been a nightmare. With 3 or 4 regions it works in a predictable way, but larger than that I can't predict what its doing. Regions jump to new positions that I dont want.
I do lots of editing of tracks not synced to Logic, I put lots of regions in the order I want them, (on a track in the arrange page). With "Tie regions by position change" they kept in the same order of there start position but in one go buffered up next to each other.
Using "Shuffle regions left within selection" with lots of regions, jumps some regions several places to the right & each press can further shuffle the regions
But if I go back to Logic 8 the key command applies to "Tie regions by position change" & it behaves as expected

Key Command troubles: Set Region/Event Start to SPL Position not working?

Hello,
I'm simply trying to find a key command that will allow me to move regions quickly from one part of a song to another without dragging with them with the mouse in the arrange window. I thought I found the solution with the key command "Set Region/Event Start to SPL Position", however it doesn't seem to be doing anything!
Here's what I've tried: First I select the region I want to move, then I move my SPL to a location using the "go to Position" key command and typing in a bar. I then try to use the "Set Region/Event Start to SPL Position" key command (which I set to Shift-Control-L) and nothing happens. Shouldn't it be moving my region to the SPL? Note: the region is still selected, but refuses to move. Am I doing something wrong? Is this not what this key command was designed to do?
In my attempts to get the darn thing to work, I also discovered that lock screen-set (Shift-L) key command also does not seem to work (it is not toggling the black dot after the screen-set number like usual). Does this mean my key commands may be corrupted? (which would be a real drag!!) Oddly enough, these are the two are the only two that do not seem to be working, as all others seem to be working fine (AFAIK).
I've had this problem in the past with the lock screen-set key command not working, and rebuild all key commands and templates when I upgraded to tiger. I thought everything was working fine!
Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks in advance for your help!!

I assigned F5 to two functions. In the key commands
window, pressing F5 highlighted the first assignment.
Pressing it again highlighted the second assignment.
So just keep pressing the key to see whether it's
assigned to more than one command...
Well, now when I type "Shift-L" into the finder in the top right of the key commands window, no key commands at all are show. However, which I search for the word "lock," the lock screenset key command comes up as "Shift-L." Oddly, if I search any other key commands (such as F1, "cmd-k," or even other shift ones like "shift-," the associated key commands show up.
To test, I changed the screen set lock from Shift-L to "opt-ctrl-L" and it now works again. However, it still will not come up in the key commands window through searching by "opt-ctrl-L"
On what may be a side note, the search feature seems very buggy! Tell me if I'm doing this right: First I open the key commands window, which opens with nothing selected. Now, in order to search by key command I go up to the top right corner where the magnifying glass is, place my curser inside and type in the key command correct? When I do this, it shows me the highlighted key command in the left, and my curser is no longer flashing up in the magnifying glass, correct?
Now, in order to search again, I have to place my curser in the search field again, right? However, now when I search by key command, not all of them register! For example, my "go to position" key command is simply ; but when I type it, nothing comes up in the search, and instead of the magnifying glass window being blank like before, the actual ; is in the box. Oddly enough, searching with "Cmnd-K" still works!
What is going on? Am I doing something wrong? How do I fix this, as it is very frustrating!! thanks again for your help

Need key commands list - complete

can someone do me a favor and email me the clipboard output of the comprehensive key command list? i'm not in a position to do this myself right at the moment. if someone chimes up, i'll reply with the email address to send it to. no formating or anything is necessary.
also, for those that use key commands a lot and have some complex customization, what is your opinion on its reliability? my questioning is due to the possible utilization of a remote session of logic, receiving custom MIDI sysex commands to basically remote control functionality via MIDI. (i will be sending commands via TCP, but there will be a local server sending MIDI to the host machine) do key commands ever not execute? if you send a rapid sequence of key commands, do they execute in a predictable fashion? etc...

Why do you need to use Sysex commands? They're so much more complicated to program and keep track of...
In terms of reliability, sometimes I find that key commands "go bad". This is almost always a case of "key label" commands going bad and to fix the problem they need to be re-programmed as "key position". That's the only buggy behavior re key commands, aside from the bugs in the key command window itself. But that's another story. Here's the list:
-------- Global Commands --------
* Record
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Tab •Record Toggle
sh - 18 •Capture Last Take as Recording
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Enter Play
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Space Play or Stop
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ct . Set Right Locator...
sh [ Set Left Locator by Song Position
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sh - 85 Quick Edit Marker
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ct op 0 Goto Marker Number 10
ct op 1 Goto Marker Number 11
ct op 2 Goto Marker Number 12
ct op 3 Goto Marker Number 13
ct op 4 Goto Marker Number 14
ct op 5 Goto Marker Number 15
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ct -106 MIDI options...
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K Open Key Commands...
ct C Open Object Colors...
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sh co F Open Movie as Float...
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/ Open Audio Record Window...
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- 75 Audio Hardware Setup
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co \ Set Audio Record Path...
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ct -  1 Save Song as...
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Plug-in Delay Compensation: All
-------- Various Windows --------
•Show Tools
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W •Set Arrow Tool
R •Set Scissors Tool
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E •Set Text Tool
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sh G Toggle Global Tracks
Toggle Signature Track
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ct Left Zoom Horizontal Out
ct Right Zoom Horizontal In
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ct Up Zoom Vertical In
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co F2 •Recall Zoom 2
co F3 •Recall Zoom 3
sh co F1 •Save as Zoom 1
sh co F2 •Save as Zoom 2
sh co F3 •Save as Zoom 3
Zoom to fit Selection vertically & horizontally, store Navigation Snapshot
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Navigation: Back
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PageUp Page Up
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1/3 Page Left
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1/8 Page Left
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Home Page Top
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Page Left-most
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Scroll In Play
sh F4 Hide/Show Transport
Hide/Show Parameters
Hide/Show Toolbox
sh op co G Grid
Plain Background
A Catch Clock Position
Link Window (Same Level)
D MIDI Out Toggle
MIDI In Toggle
M Mute Folders/Regions
F12 Hyper Draw: Disable
F13 Hyper Draw: Volume
Hyper Draw: Pan
Hyper Draw: Modulation
Hyper Draw: Pitch Bend
Hyper Draw: Note Velocity
Hyper Draw: Other...
H Hyper Draw: Autodefine
-------- Arrange and Various Editors --------
co a •Go Into Folder or Region
a •Go Out of Folder or Region
Deselect All
sh ct T Toggle Selection
ct op co F Select All Following
Select All Following of Track
Select inside Locators
Deselect outside Locators
Deselect Global Tracks
sh U Select empty Objects
sh O Select overlapped Objects
op = Select Equal Objects
ct op S Select Similar Objects
= Select Equal Channels
sh = Select Equal Subpositions
ct op co M Select Muted Regions/Events
sh co 1 •Select First
sh co 2 •Select Last
Left •Select Previous Event
Right •Select Next Event
sh Left •Toggle Previous Region/Event
sh Right •Toggle Next Region/Event
-  5 Scroll To Selection
Q Quantize Again
•Quantize: next value
•Quantize: previous Value
sh Q De-Quantize
sh co F Note Overlap Correction
sh co C Note Force Legato
Select Top Line
ct op co Down Select Bottom Line
sh C Lines To Channels
co L Sustain Pedal to Note Length
co F Note Overlap Correction (selected/selected)
ct co C Note Force Legato (selected/selected)
co R Note Overlap Correction for Repeated Notes
•Delete Similar Objects
•Delete but Keep Similar Objects
•Delete and Select Next Region/Event
ct V Paste at original Position
Paste Replace
Erase Unselected within Selection
sh co R Repeat Objects...
J Merge Objects
Split Regions/Events by Locators
sh F5 Split Regions/Events by rounded Song Position
F5 Split Regions/Events by Song Position
ct op co P •Pickup Clock (Move Event to SPL Position)
sh ct P •Pickup Clock & Select Next Event
•Set Region/Event Start to SPL Position
sh \ •Set Region/Event End to SPL Position
ct op + •Nudge Event Position by SMPTE frame +1
ct op - •Nudge Event Position by SMPTE frame -1
sh ct + •Nudge Event Position by SMPTE Bits +1
sh ct - •Nudge Event Position by SMPTE Bits -1
ct + •Nudge Event Position by SMPTE frame + 0.5
ct - •Nudge Event Position by SMPTE frame - 0.5
•Nudge Event Position by SMPTE frame + 5
•Nudge Event Position by SMPTE frame - 5
•Nudge Event Position by Tick +1
•Nudge Event Position by Tick -1
ct op Right •Nudge Event Position by Format +1
•Nudge Event Position by Format -1
•Nudge Event Position by Beat +1
•Nudge Event Position by Beat -1
•Nudge Event Position by Bar +1
•Nudge Event Position by Bar -1
•Nudge Event Position by + Nudge Value
•Nudge Event Position by - Nudge Value
•Set Nudge Value to Tick
•Set Nudge Value to Format
•Set Nudge Value to Beat
•Set Nudge Value to Bar
•Set Nudge Value to SMPTE Frame
•Set Nudge Value to 0.5 SMPTE Frame
•Nudge Event Length by Tick +1
•Nudge Event Length by Tick -1
sh ct Right •Nudge Event Length by Format +1
sh ct Left •Nudge Event Length by Format -1
•Nudge Event Length by Beat +1
•Nudge Event Length by Beat -1
•Nudge Event Length by Bar +1
•Nudge Event Length by Bar -1
•Nudge Event Length by SMPTE frame +1
•Nudge Event Length by SMPTE frame -1
op Up •Event Transpose +1
op Down •Event Transpose -1
+ •Event Channel +1
- •Event Channel -1
P Positions/Time Ruler in SMPTE Units
co U Unlock SMPTE Position
ct op co - 37 Lock SMPTE Position
Snap Mode: Smart
Snap Mode: Bar
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Snap Mode: Ticks
Snap Mode: Frames
Snap Mode: QF
sh co D Snap Mode: Samples
Drag Mode: Overlap
Drag Mode: No Overlap
Drag Mode: X-Fade
Drag Mode: Shuffle L
Drag Mode: Shuffle R
-------- Windows showing audio files --------
ct op co W Show file(s) in Finder
-------- Arrange Window --------
Up •Select previous Track
Down •Select next Track
Left •Select previous Region
Right •Select next Region
ct op co D •Deselect All Regions Except Recording Track
•Set Track & MIDI Thru Parameters by Region/Folder
ct op co C Select Equal Colored Regions
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sh - 17 Create Track
sh ct Return Create Track with next Instrument
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co D Delete unused Tracks
sh op co D Delete Redundant Audio Tracks
sh co T Tracks for Overlapped Regions
Tracks for Selected Regions
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Toggle Track Mute of all Tracks With Same Instrument of Song
Record Enable Track
Toggle Track Solo
ct op Down Individual Track Zoom In
ct op Up Individual Track Zoom Out
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ct op co -  6 Individual Track Zoom Reset
ct op co T Individual Track Zoom Reset for All Tracks
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Find Original of Alias
Select All Aliases of Region
Select All Orphan Aliases
Delete All Orphan Aliases
Audio Crossfade Options for Merge...
Merge Regions per Tracks
< Snip: Cut Time and Move by Locators
Insert Time and Move by Locators
Splice: Insert snipped part at Song Position
Demix by Event Channel
Demix by Note Pitch
ct op co F15 Empty Trash
ct op co F14 Open Trash
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ct T Create Trackname
Delete Trackname
Move Selected Regions to track
Adjust Tempo using Region Length and Locators
ct op co O Set Region(s) to Recording Position
Convert Regions to New Regions
Convert Regions to New Audio Files
sh ct co - 37 Adjust Region Length to Locators
Adjust Region Length to Nearest Bar
Strip Silence...
ct op co A Open in Apple Loops Utility...
Copy ReCycle Loop
Paste ReCycle Loop
Search Zero Crossings
ct op co N Normalize
Normalize without Channel
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ct op co Q Apply Quantization Settings Destructively
L Toggle Loop
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Erase Duplicated Events
ct op co X Set Optimal Region Sizes rounded by bar
Set Optimal Region Sizes rounded by denominator
Snap Region Start to Bar
Remove Overlaps
sh Tab Tie Regions by Length Change
op Tab Tie Regions by Position Change
Replace Overlapped Regions
Tie Regions within Locators
Insert Instrument MIDI settings as Events
Erase inside Locators
Erase outside Locators
ct E Erase outside Region Borders
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sh A View Track Automation
ct D Delay in ms
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ct op co -125 Waveform vertical zoom out
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-------- Track &Mixer --------
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-------- Environment Window --------
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Clear Cables only
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ct A Align Objects
sh ct op Left Object move left
sh ct op Right Object move right
sh ct op Up Object move up
sh ct op Down Object move down
Object Width -1 Pixel
Object Width +1 Pixel
Object Height -1 Pixel
Object Height +1 Pixel
Hide/Show Cables
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Goto Layer of Object
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Delete Layer
Insert Layer
Cable serially
Apply Buffer Template to Position and Size
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Apply Buffer Template to Definition
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Apply Buffer Template to Cable(s)
-------- Score Window --------
Page Edit
Explode Folders
ct P Explode Polyphony
Hide/Show Instrument Names
ct op co H Hide/Show Page Rulers
Color View: individual
sh ct F14 Color View: Show Pitch
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Color View: Show Polyphony
Color View: Force Black & White
sh G Go to Page #...
ct op co V Paste Multiple
•Paste Multiple at original Position
Right •Next Event
Left •Previous Event
Down •Next Staff
Up •Previous Staff
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sh ct F Force Syncopation
sh ct G Defeat Syncopation
ct G Default Interpretation
ct F Force Interpretation
ct D Defeat Interpretation
Stems: default
- 23 Stems: up
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Stems: hide
Stem End: Default Length
sh ct op Up Stem End: Move Up
sh ct op Down Stem End: Move Down
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Ties: default
ct PageUp Ties: up
ct PageDown Ties: down
B Beam Selected Notes
U Unbeam Selected Notes
Default Beams
Not Independent
co I Independent
co G Independent Grace
Default Accidentals
sh ct 3 Enharmonic Shift: #
sh ct B Enharmonic Shift: b
ct [ Flats To Sharps
ct ] Sharps To Flats
Force Accidental
Hide Accidental
sh co G Guide Accidental
co N Reset Note Attributes
Reset Line Layout
op V •Align Object Positions Vertically
op H •Align Object Positions Horizontally
•Align Object Positions
Split To Channels
ct op co Up •Nudge Position Up
•Nudge Position Down
ct op co Left •Nudge Position Left
ct op co Right •Nudge Position Right
ct op co PageUp Open Score Style Window
ct op co PageDown Open Instrument Set Window
ct op co G Settings: Global Format
ct N Settings: Numbers Names
Settings: Guitar Tablature
Settings: Clefs & Signatures
Settings: Clefs & Signatures
Settings: Clefs & Signatures
Settings: Score Colors
Selection To New Instrument Set
•Partbox: 1/1 Note
•Partbox: 1/2 Note
•Partbox: 1/4 Note
•Partbox: 1/8 Note
•Partbox: 1/16 Note
•Partbox: 1/32 Note
•Next Partbox Symbol
•Previous Partbox Symbol
•Next Partbox Group
•Previous Partbox Group
•Attach Symbol: Fermata Up
•Attach Symbol: Fermata Down
- 47 •Attach Symbol: Staccato
•Attach Symbol: Staccatissimo
- 28 •Attach Symbol: Accent
•Attach Symbol: Strong Accent
•Attach Symbol: Long Accent
•Attach Symbol: Tenuto
sh ct U •Attach Symbol: Up-Bow
•Attach Symbol: Down-Bow
•Attach Symbol: Flageolet
sh ct P •Attach Symbol: Pizzicato
•Attach Symbol: Left Hand
•Attach Symbol: Right Hand
•Attach Symbol: Soft
•Attach Symbol: Heavy
•Attach Symbol: Jazz 1
•Attach Symbol: Jazz 2
•Attach Symbol: Jazz 3
•Attach Symbol: Jazz 4
•Attach Symbol: Jazz 5
•Attach Symbol: Jazz 6
sh ct W Insert: Slur Up
sh ct S Insert: Slur Down
co , Insert: Crescendo
co . Insert: Decrescendo
-------- Event Window --------
Left Scroll to Previous Event
Right Scroll to Next Event
Length as Absolute Position
Local Position
•Numerical Edit of Event Position
•Duplicate Event and Numerical Edit
ct op co E •Copy value to all following events
-------- Hyper Edit --------
Create Hyper Set
Create GM Drum Set
Create Hyper Set For Current Events
Clear Hyper Set
Create Event Definition
Delete Event Definition
Multi Create Event Definition...
Convert Event Definition...
Copy Event Definition
Paste Event Definition
Select All Event Definitions
Protect Values toggle
Auto define toggle
-------- Audio Window --------
Up Select Previous Audio File
Down Select Next Audio File
Show Audio File Details
Hide Audio File Details
Play/Stop Region
ct O Add Audio File...
Add Region
Delete File(s)
Optimize File(s)...
Backup File(s)
Copy/Convert File(s)
Move File(s)
ct F Select Used
ct D Select Unused
ct G Show All Regions
ct H Hide All Regions
sh W Strip Silence...
Import SDII Regions
Export SDII Regions
Create Group...
Delete selected Groups
-------- Sample Edit Window --------
Play/Stop Selection
sh ct Space •Play/Stop All
ct Space •Play/Stop Region
•Play/Stop Region to Anchor
sh ct A •Play/Stop Region from Anchor
Create Backup
Revert to Backup
Save A Copy As...
Save Selection As...
Region -> Selection
Selection -> Region
Left •Goto Selection Start
Right •Goto Selection End
•Goto Region Start
sh E •Goto Region End
sh A •Goto Region Anchor
ct R Create New Region
ct N Normalize
Change Gain...
Fade In
Fade Out
ct Backspace Silence
Invert
ct < Reverse
F7 Trim
Remove DC Offset
Time and Pitch Machine...
ct G Groove Machine...
ct E Audio Energizer...
Sample Rate Convert...
Silencer...
Audio to MIDI Groove Template...
Audio to Score...
Quantize Engine...
Search Peak
Search Silence
-------- EXS24 Instrument Editor --------
Z Select zones pointing to selected group(s)
Toggle Selection
Left Previous Zone/Group
Right Next Zone/Group
Open file selector for selected zone
New Zone
New Group
View: All / Toggle Mode
View: Next Zone Parameter
View: Next Group Parameter
Move Audio files
Copy Audio files
•Backup audio files of all USED and ACTIVE instruments of current song...
•Shift selected zone(s) left
•Shift selected zone(s) right
•Shift selected zone(s) left (inc. root key)
•Shift selected zone(s) right (inc. root key)
-------- Keyboard Input --------
Note 'C'
Note 'C#'
Note 'D'
Note 'D#'
Note 'E'
Note 'F'
Note 'F#'
Note 'G'
Note 'G#'
Note 'A'
Note 'A#'
Note 'B'
Rest
Next note will be sharp
Next note will be flat
Chord Mode
Erase
- 43 Step backwards
- 47 Step forward
Octave 0
Octave 1
Octave 2
Octave 3
Octave 4
Octave 5
Octave 6
Octave - 2
Octave - 1
Octave + 1
Octave + 2
1/1 note
1/2 note
1/4 note
1/8 note
1/16 note
1/32 note
1/64 note
1/128 note
Next three notes are triplets
Next two notes are a dotted group
Velocity 16 (ppp)
Velocity 32 (pp)
Velocity 48 (p)
Velocity 64 (mp)
Velocity 80 (mf)
Velocity 96 (f)
Velocity 112 (ff)
Velocity 127 (fff)
Sustain inserted note(s)
Quantize note starts on/off
-------- Project Manager --------
Up
Down
Left
Right
Scan
Expanded Scan
Scan folder...
Abort scan process
Check for modified or deleted files
Clear scanned data
Save Project Manager data
Install files from...
Toggle find mode
Toggle Scan Paths mode
Set selected folder as display root
Move display root one level up
Move display root to top
Consolidate files of selected Songs...
Add selected files to Audio Window
Find used files for selected items
op co U Find unresolved file references for selected items
Move used files for selected EXS-Instruments...
Copy selected EXS-Instruments and used samples...
Convert selected REX files to Apple Loops...
Set comment 1 for selected...
Set comment 2 for selected...
Show details for selected
Hide details for selected
Move selected items...
Copy selected items...
Start/stop preview
Back
Update file list in find mode
Add selected files to Arrange
-------- Global Control Surfaces Commands --------
Open Setup
Open Setup as Float
Open Controller Assignments
Open Install
sh ct op M Open MIDI Monitor
Open MIDI Monitor as Float
Scan all models
Rebuild Defaults
Learn new Controller Assignment
-------- Setup Window --------
as Icons
as List
-------- Install Window --------
Scan for selected models
Scan all models
Add selected models
(the "old") Quad, 6G RAM Mac OS X (10.4.5) LP 7.1.1, MOTU PCI/2408/1224

Some Logic key commands cannot be changed or???

Hi!
Now i know that Logic copyng region when i drag it by holding Option key
So how i can reassign this key (to command key for example)?
I cant find this command in commands list
Please help!

You can't.
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Go to
 > System Preferences > Keyboard
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I don't think so.
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Bridge, can you change the key commands? Would like to change com-E (eject) to a different command.
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Mylenium

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A-LA Final cut pro's editing method. In FCP there is a way to cut at the position that you are at with a simple key command.
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I'm trying to get the play/stop key commands to behave as they did in L7. I want to use the enter and zero keys on the number pad to start and stop playback in the arrange window. I want to use the space bar ONLY to play back the selected region when I'm in the sample edit window.
(reason being when you're flying back and forth between the two windows, it's all too easy to start the transport in the arrange window, an annoyance when editing individual pieces of audio in the sample editor)
When I assign the space bar to the key command "play/stop region" in the sample edit window, it only plays the entire waveform... i.e. it doesn't play only the highlighted region. This must be a bug. If you click the little speaker icon ("prelisten") in the sample editor, it will play the selected region only, but there's no hot key for this button.
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Any ideas (besides a bugfix)?
Thanks...
Mitchell Sigman

Hi,
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regards, Erik.

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