Changes Allowed on the 3rd Party Sales Order when PO is created

Hello,
We have a requirement to change the Sales Order even if the PO is already created for teh 3rd party order. I am not sure which fields and what changes can we do if the PO is already created for the 3rd Party sales order.
Can you please guide me in pointing to the configuration or any user exit that we can control the field changes on the 3rd party sales order when teh PO is already created.
Thank you!
Chandrakant

Venu,
FIRST ANSWER THE BELOW TWO QUESTIONS.
1. Did you understand what Shiva has mentioned?
He has clearly mentioned that you can change the PO qty and in standard it self the same PO changed qty will be reflected in Sales order schduline lines qty, and he also mentioned that if this is not happening then advised to refer the Note 1361281.
2. Did you read the note?
It says that It will occur if the sales order line item is part of the delivery group or if you have set the complete delivery indicator for the sales order. And it also advised to apply the program code to over come the issue.
Please note: before commenting others just check once in system then talk, don't just blindly through the ball, it will not have good results.
Before also mentioned the same, but you still repeating the same.
Sorry Moderators that i have mentioned some lines in the Note here.
thanks,
Srinu.

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