Changing Clip Name

I understand that the best time to name a clip is when capturing. And changing a clip name will pose a problem when reconnecting media.
However, if the "clip name" is changed via "item properties" in the browser AND the "QT file" in the "Capture Scratch file" is changed at the finder level (or if Modify/Rename/File to Match Clip is used) is the above problem averted? Or is it more complex than that?
Within a simple single project, if changing the clip name is OK using "Modify/Rename/File to Match Clip" why is changing a clip name considered so taboo?

DaisyDaisy wrote:
Within a simple single project, if changing the clip name is OK using "Modify/Rename/File to Match Clip" why is changing a clip name considered so taboo?
Where it's taboo is in collaborative projects (meaning you have to merge cuts with other editors, but using the same media) as well as projects that are offline/online, since a key piece of tracking data (especially with tapeless workflows) is the clip name.
I'd consider most situations outside of those mentioned to be 'simple projects,' and thus hardly scenarios where changing clip names is taboo.

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Changing clip name behavior for duplicate clips

Suppose I have one duplicate clip that I have copied into two bins, like so:
-- Sunday's clips bin
          - clip_name_one
and
-- Flowers bin
          - clip_name_one
If I change the name of one, I expect it to change the name of the other also, since it is the same clip, just placed in two different places (not two separate files). Instead it only changes in one place, like so:
-- Sunday's clips bin
          - clip_name_one
and
-- Flowers bin
          - clip_name_one_tulip
Is this intentional behavior? I can't imagine how confusing this will be for logging when I make duplicates in multiple places for organizational purposes. I may even end up with the same clip with multiple names. The same is true for the metadata associated with the clip - if I add a comment in the comment field, it does not propogate. Markers, however, DO propogate to both, which is exactly as I would expect. Why not the metadata?
Is there a way around this (short of never duplicating clips)?

I agree, Premiere Pro is a bit weird in what it does and doesn't carry across duplicate clips. For instance, you can interpret the frame rate for a duplicate different than the other version of it. But if you go to timecode and enter a changed start timecode it effects both instances. I get why you would want to sync both name and metadata, but I also see benefits to not syncing it. Either way, I agree the option should be there. There also should be an option like fcp7 has, to rename a clip based on file name, or rename a file name based on clip name (but there isn't).
That said, instead of creating duplicates of the clip in different organizational bins, you could create custom metadata columns. Therefore creating sort of a virtual bin.
You could do that by going to the top right of the project panel and clicking on the little down arrow. Then go to metadata display (while in list view). Then you can click on Add Property in the Premiere Pro Project Metadata area. Then you could do a custom property, decide whether you want integer, real, text or boolean. You'd probably want text. So you could choose text and name it Flower. Then you could hit ok. Go back to list view, and type in flower
Then in your project panel search box, type in flower and find all clips using it. A work around for sure, but may achieve what you want.
P.S. It would be much better if you could create a boolean field and just search by the word flower and everything checked would come up in the search. Unfortunately the search is a bit stupid when it comes to this. So if you search flower with a bloolean field, nothing will come up! You have to search true or false, and then ANY checked box will show. Quite dumb! Definite feature request!

Sequence and clip name keeps changing... Why ? Solutions ?

The sequence and clip name on a particular project keeps changing. It usually takes the name of of an audio file. Deleting the preferences, opening the timeline in a new project, making it offline and reconnecting it again, et. all doesn't help ? What is causing this ? HELP
Mac Pro Quad core
Memory 8GB
Storage - XSAN
FCP version 7.0
OS X version 10.5.8
Quicktime 10 & 7.66 both installed
Anyone has a solution for this....
Jp

I made the sequence off line and save it as a new project. Then deleted the preferences and opened the project..... reconnected the media. Most of the clips showed the correct clip name and the sequence name also didn't change. But a few audio tracks still had the old problem....
Thanks for the reply.... haven't updated yet..

Changing Clip and File Names While Maintaining Link to P2

I know that if I open P2 files in the Log and Transfer window I can (re)name clips before transferring them to QuickTimes and still maintain a link to the original P2 files in case something goes offline. Two questions:
1. If I transfer without changing the name, then change the name of the clip and its related QT from within a bin will it still maintain its link to the original P2 files?
2. If so, will it maintain a link to copies of the same P2 files on another drive (I'm transferring and organizing at home using a backup of the P2's)? Would links be maintained if I did the name change in the Log and Transfer window?
OK, that was three questions. No one expects the Spanish Inquisition.
Martin

Well...the best way to figure this out is to test. I didn't know, so I did a test. Imported a clip called 0003JK.mov. Changed it at MY CAR (because it was a shot of my car)...used FCP to change the name of the file on my drive to match the clip. Then I deleted it. Then I used the BATCH CAPTURE function...and YES, it imported that clip fine.
SO...for #2...test it and see. But, if you mean that you are importing clips on one machine, NOT changing the names...and then on your machine importing and changing the names....will it relink to the files imported on the OTHER machine? I doubt it...but I can't be sure. So test it. The only way to know is to test it.
But if you change the name in the Log and Transfer window, or later, yes, they relink.
Shane

Multiclip changes source clip name

Hi everyone. Strange problem here.
We've been using Multiclip for a while, just upgraded all machines to FCP 7, and now we have an issue where switching angles in the Viewer will spontaneously change the source clip name.
For example :
- I've got 2 clips, Cam A and Cam B
- Make a multiclip out of them
- Open in Viewer
- Switch angles from Cam A to Cam B in viewer
- In the Browser, the clip Cam A is renamed as Cam B, NOT the multiclip
Using the Browser's rename function to match clip to file name erroneously uses the last active angle on the faulty clip, instead of it's proper name.
Tried on 2 different MacPros, same problem.
Any clues?
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HVX200 Clip Names in Camera/Changing

Is there a way of changing/re-naming clips in the HVX200 camera so that when they are imported into FCP they don't have that crazy 0001YB naming structure that makes abolutely no sense to me?
I'd love to be able to tweak these.
Also, I guess the only way to get files into FCP is via the P2 import, but that doubles the files and takes up HD space. Can I avoid this duplication upon importing?
It also piles these crazy named clips all into the capture bin where they REALLY make no sense.
Thanks in advance.

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No...there is no way to change this naming scheme. It is how the camera keeps the clip names unique. What you need to do is after you import, watch the clips and add your own description to it...BUT DO NOT ERASE THE NAME. So after you import the clip, ADD the name to it like:
0001DT - Man on street corner
0002R5 - Duck flies into man, knocking him down
0003GG - Man beats up duck
Something like that. This way you still have the number, in case your media ever gets lots or corrupt...or you lose a drive....you can always re-import. This is why keeping the number is so important.
Now...when you copy the footage onto an external drive, that drive them becomes your source "tape." Because you erase the P2 card to use again. You then take the footage from that drive and import that onto ANOTHER drive, your media drive. That drive is what you then use to edit the footage, and the first drive you put on a shelf, because again, that is your source tape. If your media drive goes down, or the footage gets lost, you just re-import from the first drive.
This is just what you have to do if you are using this workflow and want to keep your source footage. It would be unwise to delete the CONTENTS folder and master MXF files after you import. You are deleting your backups. It would be like capturing footage from a tape, then throwing it away, or erasing it to be used again. You wouldn't do that, would you?
Shane

Where is clip name? and Funny date change

I am importing existing Quicktime and Mpeg4 files into Imovie 09. Where do I find the clip name (I saved these files with a short descriptive name)? and these clips are coming in with the year "1903" as their date. Thoughts?

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Stuart

Clip name in Event vs Timeline

I am getting organized, and changed the names of the clips in the Event Browser after making the Projects.
Is there any way to change the name of the clips in the Timeline to reflect the updated clip names in the Browser?
Thanks,
Sonny

As 10.0.3 has a manual relink feature - if you rename a browser clip I suggest you keep the original file number as part of the name, that way if it ever goes offline and won't relink automatically for any reason (and after over 20 years of using NLEs believe me it will happen sometime) you can navigate to the original media.

Symbol Properties - changing class name

Newbee question...
I'm trying to change the class name of a movie clip symbol
that I have in my library. I've changed the name of the symbol,
I've change the name of the class in my AS3. I've changed the name
in the advanced properties Class:, but at the bottom of the
properties page there is a button that's labeled Symbol... when I
click on it, nothing happens, next to the button is Symbol Name:
[old name], but because the Symbol button does nothing when I click
on it, I cannot change the name here to the new name. Below that is
a check box that says always update before publishing, which I
checked and then published, but it still didn't update to the new
name. What am I missing?

I believe there are a couple of aspects to that, and for what I offer, anyone who knows better should chime in.
If you have an object in the library that you want to load dynamically, such as a MovieClip, you prepare it for that by selecting the option to Export for Actionscript, which lights up the ability to define a Class name for the object. When you compile the file a class definition for that object is automatically generated if there is not already a class by that name in a separate .as file.
So you can create a movieclip and have it be its own class. Or you can create some entity and assign it a Class ID that already exists as a separate .as file.
And in your AS code, to create a new instance of that class, you do it just like any other AS3 class...
var newInstance:ClassNameAssigned = new ClassNameAssigned();

Changing file names in the Finder

Hi,
Is there a way to change the names of video files in the Finder then relink them in FCPX? I have some files that I imported from my camera. Unfortunately, the camera's date was incorrect. I'd like to change the file names via the Finder to the correct dates, then relink them to the associated projects in Final Cut Pro X. However, this doesn't seem possible: when I relaunch FCPX, the "new" files appear alongside the old files in the event library and there doesn't seem to be a way to relink them.
thanks,
fh

You can't relink files in FCPX. Best way to rename clips is within FCPX itself.
final
Batch rename clips using a naming preset
1. In the Event Browser, select the clips you want to rename.
2. To open the Info inspector, click the Inspector button in the toolbar (shown below), and click the Info button at the top of the pane that appears.
3. Choose Apply Custom Name from the Action pop-up menu and choose a naming preset from the submenu.
The clips selected in the Event Browser are renamed.

Vado central changes clip dates to transfer time

vado central changes clip dates to transfer time When vado central transfers movies from vado hd onto my imac, each clip gets the date of the transfer, not the date the movie was taken. I have the latest vado central for macs (..0f6). I've tried both "Transfer" and "iMovie" download methods from vado central. When I use "Transfer", the file in the Finder has the download time, and when I use "iMovie" the date in imovie (09) is also the download time.
If I open up the vado hd dri've in the Finder and look at the file on the device, it has the correct time and date, when the movie was taken. If I drag the file from the dri've onto the desktop myself, the original, correct time and date is preserved.
So, it's vado central that is rewriting the time and date on each clip when it transfers it onto the computer.
Is this just me? Or just macs? I haven't seen other complaints about this. I have the big and unhappy job ahead of me to guess and fix a bunch of dates.

Thanks for your help. My original inquiry did not contain enough detail, so I have added more as follows:
We are not changing any file heirarchy structure or file names. I should have pointed out that we are using an Avid ISIS system for shared storage and all our project files and capture scratch files go there. We always use Log and Transfer to import AVCHD files.
"Macrosextended" format is a new one on me. I couldn't find anything about it in Final Cut help, System Settings, or User Preferences; or on the internet. We set the Scratch Disk destination for all our Final Cut systems to the ISIS Workspace we named "Project_Files" on the ISIS 5000.
We normally use Sony XDCAM EX cameras and have had no problems with their files. The AVCHD camera we use in some situations is a Sony HXR-MC50U.

Clip name to file name

Needs to be away to make clip names to file names.
Some files are loaded by other people. They did not name the file right.
It would be nice to have a plugin or apple scrip to do this.

Actually, it's not exactly an automatic procedure - just because you change the name in the Browser, doesn't mean the .mov on your hard drive gets changed. You actually have to either go Modify > Rename (from the Menubar) or control-click with the clips in question corrected, to even get the options.
And, for what it's worth, there is also the option to go backwards (Match Clip to File Name) for the instances when folks get a little to crazy with the clip renaming.
As for file name changes, the renaming does not cascade through to closed projects, you'll have to relink media the next time you open them. However, in a nice touch, FCP does re-write the source property for clips in other open projects - that are linked to the media file in question - when you alter the file name (so those clips won't go offline).

Clip name browser

Is there a way to set the clip name for Canon mpeg files to their actual name/clip number (e.g. AA1224) in the Browser instead of date created.
As foe my imported dslr mov's are showing the clipname. e.g. DSC_6783 as I like it.
Thanks in advanced.

FCP and Mac are very new to me. Used to Window and Premiere Pro.
I do not change the name of the clips of the card.
Must be doing something wrong. Select clips in libary. go to inspector, set it to info, then drop downmenu: greyed out.
If i select just one clip nothing happens in the inspector.
I dont like working with clips that all start with clip date followed by clip time.
I am use to windows way. AA0001, AA002 etc.
By Canon mpeg files I mean mpeg-2 in a mxf container.
Should I use Proress instead. I am on a imac 2.95 SSD+1 tb internal disk and 16 gig of ram.
I am still figuring out how the mac does its file managment.
Have no idea how to generate proress and then do I substitute proress for the Canon files on export?
So many questions. I did follow a course on Lynda.com. But alas it does not tell you everything.
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How do we change the name of a sound file once it is in the session?

how do we change the name of a sound file once it is in the session?
Thanks
Steve z

The only way that you can rename the audio file from within Audition is to do a Save As from the Waveform view AFAIAA. You can rename clips by clicking in the name box at the top of the Properties window or by right clicking on the clip and selecting Rename from the drop down menu (this will automatically open the Properties window if it isn't already open).

Timeline and Project Bin Clip Names Not Linked

I realize I could get booed out of the room for mentioning FCP7, but one painful issue I'm encountering with an imported project from Final Cut is that once a clip is put into a timeline, its name is not updated inthe timeline when the project clip name is updated.
I took over a project that has numerous subclips with long, long names. The prior editor did not use any metadata fields except for subclip names, so the names read like short stories. These long names create a lot of visual distraction in the interface and result in interface tabs that are so long they hide the remaining tabs in the source window.
In FCP 7 I would simply rename a clip and each incidence of that clip/subclip in the timeline would update at the same time. It was beautiful and elegant.
I'd love to hear the logic as to why PP doesn't operate this way. In our imperfect world it's not possible to control what previous editors have done before a handoff, epecially now with lots of legacy XML coming into PP and AVID from old Final Cut Projects.
I can think of a number of other scenarios for which linking the names timeline and project clips would be a huge help (changes to a project scope, user error, etc).
I should ask: am I overlooking a setting in the preferences or something? Anyone else run into this issue?

I really preferred how FCP7 works. I think Premiere Pro would benefit from this change too. If you don't want clips in the TL to updated with clips in the bin (maybe I'm missing something, but I can't imagine in everyday use where you might want to do this), an independent clip could be created that then breaks that relationship.
I think consistency is important and its very difficult to keep a consistent universe of clips when a change in clip name is needed. I have to respectfully disagree with Jim on this. I know how I like to work. Everyone has their own ways, and their is no one right or wrong way, but I see this "feature" as a particular deficit of functionality in PP that will be addressed soon.

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