Changing color management options for printing not possible

I got a problem with Leopard and a Canon i9950 printer. When I choose "Color Matching" from the "print options" pop-up menu, I cannot select "Color Sync" or "In Printer". "Color Sync" is selected, but both options are greyed out and not changeable. So it`s not possible to do a printer color calibration. With Tiger everything worked fine with that printer.

Are you seeing this is all applications or perhaps just in Photoshop or Aperature?

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In PS C6 I'm getting a warning that "No color management" setting for printer isn't supported. Why?

I'm using Photoshop Extended CS6. I'm printing to either an Epson Stylus Pro 9900 or an Epson SP4900. In the print dialog, I get a warning I haven't seen in a long time. It says the setting "No Color Management" at the printer is not supported. This is patently false. I am given a link to download the Adobe Color Print Utility (which gives abominable results; I know this from repeated uses in the past), and a service note saying this issue is for Photoshop CS5. Clearly there is a problem, possibly a bug.
I have never had CS5 installed on this machine. I do have PS CS5.5 and PS CS6 on this machine (I have used all versions of CS in various suites from the start of the product line).
Can anyone explain this annoying intrusion on my workflow? Of course "no printer management on printer/Photoshop manages color" works... There must be an explanation.
Thanks.

An excellent question, and worthy, in fact of an essay, if not a chapter in a book on color management and proofing issues. And as you suggested earlier, it's a philosophical question (not strictly conceptual to my way of thinking).
It's also a question I can't answer, in terms of practicality and a personal sense of efficacy in dealing with a monolithic process (producing a print). That is, I can't answer for you, or anyone else I'd venture to say.
Stepping back for the briefest of moments, we should remember we live, on computers, in a virtual world. Whatever we see is a simulation, or if you prefer a simulacrum. Plato would probably say, not much better than the play of shadows on the cave wall from the flickering flames.
It's called soft proofing for a reason. The only hard proof is a print. I am old enough to remember the days when producing a color print from a chrome (requiring an internegative) or even directly from negative images, was an art, best left to skilled technicians in a lab. And even then it was an iterative process. Making an image ready for accurate color rendition in lithographic reproduction was the same things, maybe times ten. And required sometimes a whole team of skilled technicians, the last of them being the press operator. You can't appreciate the full impact of these facts of life back then unless you have been "on press" in some plant, invariably in the hinterlands, looking at actual press proofs under 6500K calibrated proofing lights, comparing them against the original chrome, the separation proofs used to make the plates. You had to understand not only the physics (and biology) of RGB imaging, but the intricacies of subtractive technology, aka CMYK. As in so much else in life, less is more, and so you had to understand that sometimes the least adjustment was the best (because you were also dealing with the physical constraints of layers of ink on paper), so if an image looked too green on the press sheet, it might be best to throttle up on the magenta just a touch, rather than cut back on the yellow and cyan. You balanced one against the other, because of the possible effects on other parts of the image.
This long-winded, probably tiresome if not boring, anecdote is meant to be illustrative of the analogous situation in which we find ourselves printing images with digital technology, combined with electromechanical devices spraying pigmented fluids in drops measured in picoliters of volume on substrates of varying physical properties related to absorbency, refractive index, contribution to an arcane phenomenon known as metamerism.
We can't hope to see anything but a, pardon the expression, simulacrum of the combination of the effects of these phenomena (and other phenomena as a result of the interdigitation of these different technologies, at the software level, and even more so at the hardware level), at least not on a screen (which introduces a whole other set of variables). We can't see what we will get unless we actually go through the ordeal and expense of producing a hard proof. And then using our experience and deductive skills to make adjustments, not unlike maneuvering a rover on the moon from a control station on earth, that will produce the desired outcome within a very narrow (I assume) set of parameters.
Personally, I prefer working in Lightroom and in Photoshop in order to produce the image I would like to see in an ideal, if you like a Platonic, world. If what was on the screen could somehow be transferred magically to the surface of a lovely unsullied sheet of Arches cold press watercolor paper, 350g/m^2 coming out of an Epson 9900... (I've done it). Not so easy.
What the soft proofing capabilities of Photoshop are good for, from my point of view, is to show me how far off the image I am looking at as ideal will fall short on the intended target substrate. I must always remember, it is not a wholly accurate rendition of what the printer will do with a sheet of paper from a particular production run, with the particular combination of inks (with varying dates of origin of manufacture), never mind the vagaries of temperamental nozzles in the printhead, not to mention conditions of humidity, temperature, etc.
What the softproof tells me is that the red in that scarf on my subject really needs bumping up, if I expect the level of vibrancy I see I need in the ideal rendition. And I make the adjustment in the RGB representation on the screen, etc. When I have made my by guess and by gosh adjustments to all problem areas as suggested by the soft proof (it is only as accurate after all as the RGB image is in depicting any realistic expectation of a final result—the only assurance I have is that if I really want people to see my image as I see it on the screen I had better show them the screen...), I make a print. Sometimes I have to make two or three until I am satisfied this is truly the best I will get from the beautiful, but arcane, surface of the paper I have chosen.
In short, it's a risky business, and expensive.
If you want fast and affordable, frankly, stick to premium grade high gloss surfaces, preferably from Epson, in your case, or the manufacturer of your printer in general (Canon, incidentally, produces spectacular results on their Pixma Pro series printers and their own papers, especially the Pro Luster surface... I don't even bother with soft proofing... so there is an exception even to this rule I am taking a lot of time to point out to you). High gloss papers tend to have the widest gamut, give the deepest blacks, and the best renditions of saturated color, red and blue particularly, for some reason often the hardest spectral colors to render with the level of saturation you might like. Especially if you tend to shoot vividly colored subjects.
If you regularly use matte surface, or so-called fine art or watercolor surfaces, I think even if you adhere to the workflow implied in your question... Just set the computer and screen to "soft proof" in effect in Photoshop and work from their, and hope for the best... you are in for massive chronic dissatisfaction.
One last thing, I produce what I consider a basic working image in Lightroom, add further effects using a battery of third party effects software (from Google Nik, OnOne, Imagenomic, AlienSkin, etc.) and then go to work further on the image in Photoshop, but I never save the image, except as a revised file, once I'm done with Lightroom adjustments (which are never applied to the RAW file, but kept as meta-instructions separately in the LR database). So any effects added produce a new file. Any changes in Photoshop produce a new file. And when I am working, finally on an image to make into a committed hard print, I NEVER save the settings I use to produce a print, including a print I deem acceptable for exhibition. If nothing else, I can honestly tell a print buyer they are getting a unique "hand-made" image. I don't feel I'm operating a factory after all, but a studio. Further, changes in technology occur dynamically and continuously. I don't know what I would do with the settings I derived from working solely in the "soft-proofing" mode you think you might prefer in your workflow, if a new paper or ink set, or printer came along that solved the problems I had to fudge around to get a decent print with the existing technology at the time. At least if I work solely in RGB trying to achieve an "ideal" rendition, I will always be able to start from that same point, the next time I want a print worth saving of that image.
We've gone, or I've gone, way off topic here, and I beg the indulgence of anyone else who might be reading this, hoping for a simple fix to the original simple problem.
H

Can't access Color Management options for HP 6700 under Mac OS 10.8.5 (Mountain Lion)

Hello.
I've got the HP Officejet 6700 Premium e-All-in-One and I can't find any way to access Color Management options.
The printer is attached (Wi-Fi) to my iMac running Mac OS 10.8.5 (Mountain Lion).
I want to correct a magenta cast to photographs that I've printed. I've had the magenta-cast problem under Lightroom and using Preview to print the photographs, so now I want to work with color profiles in Photoshop Elements.
Photoshop Elements recommends that I "disable color management in the printer preferences dialog".
However, I'm not able to find color management preferences for the 6700 in any of the settings under Mountain Lion:
Not under (Apple) > System Preferences > Print & Scan.
Not under (HP Utility) > Open Embedded Web Server.
Not under (HP Utility) > Printer Settings.
Not under Preview's print dialog.
Nor can I find any clear direction in the online help (at HP or elsewhere) that I've read so far.
Any suggestions would be most appreciated.
Thank you!
Michael
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Please note that in the Print dialog I get "Color Matching" not "Color Management."
Still, I am (at this point) able to control color from Photoshop Elements, so that's good enough to proceed.
Thanks again.

HP Deskjet 5100 Stuck on Grayscale - Color Management Options unavailable in printer settings

Hello!
My printer is an HP Deskjet 5100 on Mac 10.8.5. It is stuck on grayscale when printing. No matter what program I try to print in I do not get the color management option, even when checking in the advanced options.
On photoshop it's also stuck to grayscale.
I have printed a test page successfully in color. But for some reason no program will print in anything but grayscale.
I have tried to update the drivers, but according to the HP website/driver check everything is up to date.
Other information:
In printer options, I can't even check my cartridge levels. I receive the following message: Information Not Available
In ColorSync Utilites, under Devices, it says Printer Mode is: "Gray". When I try to assign a different color profile to it, it doesn't take.
I have done a hard reset on the printer.
I have removed completely and resynced the printer with the computer again in System Pref/Print & Scan
Any information would be amazing. I have checked every forum I could find online,
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Hi,
Your printer is not compatible with Mountain Lion, therefore the Mac use a Generic PCL driver which is Black & White driver only:
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c01856359&cc=us&dlc=en&lc=en&product=304431&task...
You may try a 3rd party driver as HPIJS, it seems to support your printer and will more likely provide you a better results than a generic driver.
Be sure to install any of the 3 required downloads before adding the print queue:
http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/openprinting/macosx/hpijs
Shlomi
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No color management option is not available in photoshop cs5 mac

Currently have CS5 for Mac; upgraded to Mavericks and now the "no color management option" in the print dialog box is not selectable. Any help with this please advise.

If we're looking at the same thing that's greyed out (the Color Mode setting for an Epson printer), to make that active you have to first choose Color Matching, which is in the same menu that Printer Settings is on, and then choose Epson Color Controls. But on my Mac, Color Mode is already set to "Off (No Color Management)" even though it's grayed out.
If it says "Off (No Color Management)" in the printer driver and at the same time Photoshop is set to "Photoshop Manages Colors" and the correct printer profile is selected in Photoshop, you should be fine.
It's important to note that the only purpose for the Adobe Color Printer Utility is to bypass OS color management in order to print targets for printer profiling, not to print actual images. If you're trying to print an image, you shouldn't be using the Color Print Utility. The utility won't add back a No Color Management option to Photoshop itself, because that option has been permanently removed.

Color management settings for HP Photosmart d7460 printer?

Hi,
HP Photosmart d7460
Windows 7 Pro 64 bit
I have the above printer, and I have recently used Datacolor devices to manually calibrate both my monitor and printer. I notice that when, for example, I use Adobe Photoshop Elements or Corel Photopaint X4 to print photos, that I am advised to select software to handle color management. I also receive a message informing me that i should switch off printer color management in printing preferences (i.e. the printer driver software). Unfortunately the only options available in the printer driver 'color management' drop down menu appear to be either Colorsmart/sRGB or AdobeRGB. I understand that there should be another option, either 'no color management' or 'application controlled' but it is not present. There is also no option, in this menu, for the ICC profile that I have created for the printer, although the profile is present in the Adobe Photoshop Elements application, and in Corel.
How do I switch off color management by the printer and allow the application to solely control color management? I understand that having both the application and printer control color management can lead to poor colours.
Regards, Chris

does anyone have any suggestions, any help appreciated.
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Color management settings for the best print output

Color Management while Printing has been one of the challenging areas which has been discussed a lot over user forums and has been a painful area in terms of clear understanding while taking print outputs.
Here is an easy-to-understand KB (Knowledge Base) article ‘Color management settings for the best print output’ to help you get the best from your printers using PSE and bridge that knowledge gap.
This article explains color management in Photoshop Elements, how to get better prints, and addresses some of the following issues like horizontal/vertical streaks in print output, too dark or too light print output, ICC profile problems and Color differences between prints from PSE and other applications.
Thanks,
Garry

Thanks Noel.
Yes have shared in PSE forum as well. But I usually drop such posts on PS General forum so community moderators as well as our power users who mostly use both PS or PSE or are aware about can communicate to their students, audiences etc.
The idea is to reach out the message to as many as folks via relevant forums. Most of my otehr posts have found mentioned only on PSE forum.
Thanks for the feedback Nice to hear such a great feedback within 5 mts of publishing
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Garry

HP-photosmart 6280 all-in-one with osx 10.9 now does not show options for printing photos from the photo tray.

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Color management problem when printing

(sorry for the double post, since the problem affect both illustrator and photoshop and in fact also indesign) in decided to repost it here in the photoshop forum. thank you for any help!)
hi ! im in charge of a big print lab in a university. All macpro quad running on 10.6.4, CS5 all updated.
i have a major problem when printing from all 3 CS5 apps : Illustrator (being the worst), photoshop and indesign : each one produces a different print even if i use the SAME color management options (the application manage color using my own color profile file created with a i-one tool from greta macbeath and using eye-one match 3). im printing on a XEROX 7750gx laser printer. very cool printer never had trouble with colors before with it, in any case it was always the software part that was causing color problems (like i suspect in this case).
how can 3 softwares under the same application collection and brand, using the same color profile and options (IDENTICAL ! it's triple check all the options!) can produce 3 different prints when printing the same image (it's a color psd created under photoshop CS5) ?!
i remember having some trouble like this when we first got CS1 in our lab, but not this bad... i've checked everything... i realy don't know how to fix this problem...
the best setting so far is in Photoshop when the application manage the color and using my color profile file in perceptual mode. best output so far, not the best i had in the past, CS4 was way more perfect with color management.
i realy need to find a solition 'cause the students expect the color to be almost perfect (and they almost were using CS4 in the past...
thanx for any tips & help !
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many thanx for your reply & help.
i've just recalibrated everything in my workflow : my screen (perfect!), my xerox 7750 color laser printer. i've recreated a new color profile file for the xerox color. and the same thing is happening : a kind of pink color all over my prints and every adobe's applications is printing different results. in photoshop i can manage the problem when forcing to print in perceptual mode. not perfect but it's fine. and with the other software specialy like ACROBAT and INDESIGN there's no option like this so it prints very badly. only option is to print in adobe 1998 rgb or SWOP cmyk (depending of the color space of the image of course)... the image is use for my test is RGB. images in CMYK are doing the same exact thing.
by the way for calibration is use an x-rite (greta macbeth) eye-one tool with eye-one match 3.6.3. i calibrate the screens and create color profile with this tool since ADOBE CS1 and never had this much trouble with colors...
here's a capture from photostop CS5 print dialog. when using the option "match print colors" you can see the image with all the PINK NOISE when using the print in RELATIVE colormetric mode (at the bottom right). using perceptual is "fine" (not color perfect but OK).
http://i53.tinypic.com/qzge12.jpg
it's worst in Acrobat and Indesign since i can't use perceptual colormetric print mode...
im realy starting to think that i better uninstal CS5 and go back to CS4...
thanx for your help !

HP B9180 - Turn off color management in the printer driver.

I see others have questions in this area and mine is only a slight variation.
When selecting the ICC profile there is an option for Printer managed and then below that all my normal profiles are selected of which I select whichever is appropriate.
I select more options and select 'Perceptual' - does anybody have any views on this?
I keep black point on and increase brightness slightly - it's a judgement.
I click print and I get an additional Printer menu - possibly HP unique.
In this one of the options is Color Matching.
Grayed out beneath this are two radio buttons - one for Colorsync (on) and one for Vendor Matching (off). As they are grayed I cannot effect this.
It would appear that color management by the printer driver is turned off and I do appear to have more and better control of my prints than before but if anyone has more information I would be pleased to hear it.
regards, Bob

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I have a problem with Photoshop EPS file when the "Postscript color management" option is activated.
Is there a way to check that this option is activated?? I was not able to find it with ScriptDebugger inspector or even in the user interface.
The option is read from the document because when you save the document the dialog that appears display the option state with the appropriate status (when in was previously saved).
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I just purchased a new Canon Pro 9000 MKII which came with a new copy of Photoshop Elements 8. I registered the software and created a username and password successfully, but I am unable to created a personal URL for starting an online gallery. I keep getting error messages everytime I try. One message is that name is taken and the other simply says there is an error.
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