Changing of Means of Transport for deployment order

Hi All,
Is it possible to manually/ programatically change the means of transport of a deployment order ? for example once deployment has run, it has created a deployment order with means of transport, lets say, 0001 ( Truck). Now i want to change the means of Transport to 0003 ( Air). Is it possible using some BADI etc ?
Pls note that i know that by assigning product speciic means of product of 0003, it is possible to directly create deployment order for 003 means of transport. Due to some requirement, we want to change it manually.
Regards,
Pawan.

Hi Senthil,
I tried that option already. Infact there is no need to delete existing deployment order, you can simply run deployment with replan all option. This will create deployment orders on the new means of transport. What i wanted is, without running deployment, is there some option possible wherein i can change the means of transport of an existing order, which is already created on another means of transport ?
regards,
Pawan.

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