Changing System ID (SID) for production environments

We have had 4 cloned machines for the development of production environments but unfortunately we skipped changing the SIDs for them. Now all the 4 machines have the same SID. Though things are working fine as of now but in the near future this case might become problematic. Is there a way to change the SIDs so that the changes are reverted in the database as well ?? We tried the conventional way to change the SIDs on Demo environments but since then the systems didnt start up....Does anybody have a clue what to do??
Waiting in hope!!

>Now all the 4 machines have the same SID.
What SID are you talking about ? Peoplesoft ACCESSID ? SYSADM1 ? Database ? Please clarify.
Nicolas.

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oracle@fuzzy:~>                                                     Message was edited by:
Hans Forbrich
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