Chaning pitch in piano roll like in Gragaband and Akai MPC

The other day I was fiddling around with Garaband on my buddies new Macbook and I found a cool feature which I thought the MPC was the only that has it.
If you select a MIDI note in the piano roll in GB, you can change the pitch of that note and it tunes the sample it triggers (the mIDI note remains at the original place, however). How do I do this in Logic?? This is an excellent thing if you fi are programming a snare roll or if you trigger different samples in 1 sampler and can't change pitch other than automating the sampler's tuning parameter.
I hope I make sense? This is hard to explain in a foreign language.

sorry, but just wanna cover this...say if im programming a drum beat in the piano roll. i dont like to use mouse or trackpad at all.
i would record a pattern with caps lock on-screen keyboard, i tend to copy and paste certain notes via mouse drag to select and copy and drag to copy too. but i guess i can select multipe notes with modifiers..?...and copy and paste too, by moving the song position line via the transport display figure...right....
(theres no avoiding mouse/trackpad is there?)
then moving and shifting notes is ok...
any other cool shortcuts for building a drum pattern in piano roll editor, for someone who doesnt wanna use mouse or trackpad?

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pookah69 wrote:
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aleksmoneya wrote:
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Has anyone been able to get this to work?
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There's a little icon in the top left corner of the piano roll window that looks like a pair of chain links. If that is selected (goes yellow) then the piano roll editor is linked to the arrange page region selection(s). Sounds like what you want.
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Hey guys,
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I work with 2 screens.
When I double click a midi event, i want the piano roll to open in a floating window, just like it used to be, and not in the new bottom layer (pop up) bar in the bottom of the arrange window. I want this because i like to edit on the second screen while still haveing an overview of my arrange on my 1st screen.
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Im quite sure this cannot be done, but i thought i should ask to confirm...
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,even if i doesnt annoy everyone ,it is indeed counter creative.
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You can use the transform tool but it's "after the fact". Simply rubberband a group of notes to be changed and use the Transform tool under the piano roll's "function" menu. Choose "Fixed Note Length" then set the parameter box to the value you need.
There's also this workaround: Find a note of the correct length already in the sequence or create temporary notes of the correct length. I'm assuming by "draw" you mean using the pencil tool. Move the pencil over the *center of note with the length you need, left mouse click and hold for a second, until the pencil turns into a hand, you will now have the length set for drawing new notes. The pencil tool is still selected so you don't have any additional selections to make.
Yes, it's a hassle, but once you get used to it you will find it's faster than what you've been doing.
*slight correction: when moving the pencil tool over the *center of a note, it will change into the pointer arrow, left click and hold and it will change into the hand, move the pointer away and it goes back to the pencil.

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Displaying multiple midi regions in piano roll

I have overdubbed some midi tracks and would like to view and edit them in one window of the piano roll.
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Anyone else having this issue?
If you have a dedicated piano roll screenset, does it show you the currently selected MIDI region from the arrange page?
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Transposing in Piano Roll with the Function

I have a tune that's 2 midi tracks (green), piano and sax.
I just want to transpose them without having to do it manually ,( selecting all the nots and nudging them up). I don't like doing that with a thousand notes.
Don't you just hate it when all your creative juice gets frazzeled because you can't do something that is incredibly easy with Garage Band but you can't figure it out with Logic?
I have spent at least a couple hours with the manual online and the book so as not to be scolded with RTFM.
This is Logic 8 . I can't find the manual for it online and maybe it matters ??
I think it can be done GB style from the Piano Roll> functions>Transform>transposition.
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musicspirit wrote:
tbirdparis wrote:
You can { I assume you mean CAN} just select the midi regions in the arrange window and then adjust the transposition to whatever you want using the transpose setting in the inspector? It takes like 0.2 of a second, I just timed myself.
I dont think this is correct - I never use the transpose setting in the inspector because it transposes the Score. I just tried your suggestion by going +2 and indeed an Eb part goes up to F... but this is the effect where Logic's Score Editor plays back the part in concert but shows a transposed part for printing ( as in transposing instruments - also the notes in the Piano Roll dont transpose)
@Bobsax try this ( I know you hate nudging the notes but once familiar with these steps it will not interrupt your creative flow):
1 - Open Key Commands. Type in: '*Transpose Event +1*' and '*Transpose Event -1*' and find out what the key commands are or program them ( I use simple the + and - signs on the numeric pad)
2 - Go back to the Arrange window and select both regions
3 - Open the Piano Roll on a separate screen set and zoom out so that you can check all the notes are highlighted - usually Screenset 6 by default. ( Dont do it in the Arrange as there is not usually enough space)
4 - With both regions selected, press + key (or minus if you are transposing down). Count carefully as many Semi Tones or Half Steps up or down you want to go. You will hear the midi notes sound as they go up or down
5 - If you make a mistake there is always UNDO or REVERT to SAVED
This operation takes me less then 5 seconds
HTH
Music Spirit
Thank You MusicSpirit
This did the trick.
Sorry I didn't have any stars left for you TBirdParis:(
I'll get you next time
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