Channel Strip Insert Priority...

Hello everyone!
What is the order of priority for channel strip inserts? Which one is the very first insert? Top or bottom most? It's good to know this when you're chaining dynamics and eq plugs. Thanks!

psound18 wrote:
even on pro mixing consoles it starts the signal flow at the top and works its way down. your fader being the last
Maybe that's why non-pro consoles sound so crappy, they make the sound take 90-degree turns and 180-degree flips (I can hear a phase joke coming.)

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would each channel strip correspond to an instrument? (drums, keys, guit, vox)
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