Chapter Markers near transitions

In one of his very detailed and helpful sets of notes Bengt W stated that for burning a FCE project in iDVD we should not place a Chapter Marker within 2 seconds of a transition. For me, that is often exactly where I need to put chapter markers to create scenes in the main menu! Is it OK to fade out to black, leave a 2 second gap and then fade back up again? I assume the chapter marker should go in the centre of the gap in this case. It means a longer black space in the finished DVD than one might want when viewing continuously across the scenes. Are there alternatives to this, please? Thanks, Keith

Chapter Markers can not be placed within one second of each other, the beginning, or the end of of your sequence. AFAIK, there is no harm in placing a chapter marker on a transition except that the viewer will begin without a clear idea of what scene had just ended and where exactly they are starting viewing.
If you're dying to use the fade to black method it will also work.

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    Message was edited by: SDMacuser

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