Chapter points in timeline slip by minutes...

I'm working on a 2 hour single timeline with 5 chapters. (DVD-9) I place a chapter point at the beginning of each scene. During the Encore 2.0 preview, all chapter points hit the correct point on the timeline. But after burning the DVD, chapter points 1, 2, and 5 all hit correctly, but chapter points 3 and 4 go to a location a few minutes before the actual point where the marker is. All the poster marks do play at the correct points in the chapter menu.
I've tried .mV2, .mpg and Encore 2.0 avi encoded file and all with the exact same results. Have even re-built the DVD in a new Encore file.
Anyone out there have any ideas?
Bruce

Use the button in the Timeline panel.

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OK, the truth is I have never run Encore before.
I have Premiere Pro 2.0.
I need to start authoring some DVDs.
I don't think the Authoring capability included within Premiere Pro 2.0 will quite do it for me. So, I'm looking at getting Encore. A couple of questions:
1. When I specify chapter points within the Premiere timeline, can those somehow be imported as chapter points in Encore or do I have to specify the chapter points all over again?
2. What version of Encore should I get? (I'm not even sure any version other than CS3 is available.) If I get CS3, will I need to start using Premiere CS3 as well?
3. I want to have Dolby Digital (AC3) format to save space on the DVD disc. Does Encore take care of this?

Just looking around, I saw that Amazon.com.UK had EncoreDVD 2. Amazon (US), only listed the upgrade. eBay might be a good source, but beware of pirated, bootlegged, etc., versions. Adobe Store does not list it any longer, but there might still be some legit copies hanging about, either privately owned, but never installed/registered/activated, or by retailers, who did not sell every copy, prior to the release of CS3, and the change in packaging.
Good luck,
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Transfering Chapter Points to new timeline.

How do you transfer chapter points from on timeline to another. I want to do this because I have made a mistake in the previous video and you obviously have to re-export it so it becomes a new clip. Thanks.

Just re-export it with the same name and path as the original clip - Encore will re-read the file the next time you open the project.

Problem setting chapter points at exact locations in timeline

When I go to a place in my timeline where I want to add a chapter point sometimes the point is placed behind or before my desired selection. I expand the timeline to make sure that I'm at the correct location, but nonetheless the chapter point is not placed where I want it. When I try to drag the chapter point to my desired place, it doesn't stay...either going back to where it was previously or jumping to another point. Any suggestions to get the chapter points exactly where I want them?

Yes - import an AVI or MOV file instead of MPEG-2.
MPEG-2 files are encoded with GOP headers, and any chapter you add will be placed on the GOP header (that's how DVD-Video chapters work), but if you use AVI or MOV instead, you can place a chapter wherever you want it and when Encore transcodes the video to MPEG-2, it will create a GOP header at the chapter point frame.

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In the timeline I had to trim an mpeg file for 12 seconds. Later on I added chapters. In the preview everything works fine, but when burned to a DVD, the chapter points get out of sync more and more. At the end it's about 30 seconds on a film of 60 minutes. Even the film stops 30 seconds earlier.
What is going wrong here?
Han Bouman

Yes! This is indeed true; I just noticed this today. It doesn't appear to have any actual affect on the DVD. The first chapter starts out right at 0:00 but by the end, it's off (as compared to the project file) by mannnnnnny seconds. Why does this happen?

Change of Video Frame One Sample Out of Sync with Correct Point on Timeline

Change of Video Frame One Sample Out of Sync with Correct Point on Timeline.
It has been found on the author's PC that, in Audition 3 in Multitrack View, a video file displayed in the video window will change its frame one sample later than it should do with respect to the correct point on the timeline. This has led to extra work having to be done by the author, as detailed later.
To demonstrate this issue:
Create a new multitrack session. Enable the Time and Video windows. Enable only 'Snap to Frames'.
Using an external program, render a two-frame video clip at 25fps. Let the first frame contain the letter 'A', and the second frame contain the letter 'B'. Making sure that the Display Time Format is set appropriately, in this case at 'SMPTE 25 fps (EBU)', lock this clip on the multitrack timeline, ensuring that the clip starts at time 00:00:00:00.
Create a mono audio clip of silence at 48kHz 32-bit that is two frames long. Lock it on an audio track, ensuring that the clip starts at time 00:00:00:00.
Place the cursor at time 00:00:00:01 and create a cue marker at this point by pressing F8.
Zoom into the timeline so that approximately twenty samples are visible, with the cursor lying on the cue marker in the middle of the screen. The Time window should display 00:00:00:01. The Video window should display the letter 'A'.
Move the cursor back in time (leftwards) by one sample. The Time window should change its display to 00:00:00:00, whilst the Video window should still show the letter 'A'.
Move the cursor forwards in time (rightwards) by one sample, so that it overlays the cue marker again. The Time window should change its display back to 00:00:00:01, whilst the Video window remains showing the letter 'A'.
Move the cursor forwards in time (rightwards) by one more sample. The Time window's display should remain at 00:00:00:01, but the Video window should now display the letter 'B'.
As can be seen from the above steps, the video's change of frame content occurs incorrectly one sample later than it should; the change of video frame content should occur simultaneously with the change of the frame number displayed in the Time window, which is at the point that the cue marker has been placed.
The practical effect of this issue is that it has caused the author a huge amount of extra work on an 89-minute long soundtrack-for-video timeline. There were over 1100 changes of shot which the author wished to mark by placing cue markers at the beginning of every shot. This should have been a quite simple process of enabling 'Snap to Frames', stepping through the video, and laying cue markers down by pressing F8 when the shot was seen to change.
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i that has been placed on the timeline using the 'Snap to Frames' option
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The author had to manually reposition all 1100+ cue markers.
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Part of the PC system's specification is detailed below:
Windows XP Professional Version 2002 SP3;
Adobe Audition 1.0 Build 3211.2;
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obe Audition 2.0 Build 5306.2;
Adobe Audition 3.0 Build 7283.0;
ASRock 775dual-VSTA motherboard, BIOS Version P.3.00;
2.80 GHz Intel Pentium D Processor 915 2x2MB L2 Cache;
2GB DDRII 667 RAM;
Matrox G550 DualHead AGPx4 VGA card for Audition's two main work screens;
Matrox Productiva G100 MMS PCI VGA for two additional "static" information screens;
4 x PATA HDDs for OS & programs, swapfile & temp, project file sources, and guide audio;
Onboard Realtek ALC888 7.1 channel audio CODEC with High Definition audio;
Lite-On DVDRW LH-18A1P;
VIA OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller.
ASIO4ALL version 2.8;
Via Hyperion Drivers 5.16a - (VIA Chipsets INF Update Utility V3.00A, VIA PATA IDE Driver Package V1.90, VIA SATA IDE Driver Package V2.30A, AGP V4.60A);
Matrox PowerDesk-SE 11.10.400.03;
Matrox Millennium G550 Display Driver Version 5.99.005;
Realtek High Definition Audio System Software Version R1.91, Audio Driver Version 5.10.0.5605;
DirectX 9.0c March 2008;
Microsoft .NET frameworks 1.1, 2.0 and 3.0 with all service packs.

Dual Layer and Chapter Points

Hi everyone.
I have just finished a wedding dvd and I'm having several problems burning it into a DVD+R DL (I am using Verbatim Printable now). The only way I can accomplish that is to generate a ISO file from encore and use ImgBurn to burn the dvd.
The problem is that after burning the DVD in ImgBurn, the chapter points I defined in encore's timeline are wrong. Some of them seem to be outdated for a few seconds and others are refering other chapter points, however in the preview of encore everything is fine.
It seems that it was created a chapter for the layer break i guess. Because when i navigate with the ">>" button, the 3rd chapter is the ending of the 2nd... and is not mapped that way in encore preview.
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point to the exact point... no good if you want to
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point set in DVDSP and burn through disk utility will
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Hi, I am also experiencing the same problem. After burning the project into a disc we tested it on a DVD player. In normal play, the videos would stop at the end of a chapter however when we press fast forward it would bypass chapters. Instead of stopping at the end of a chapter it will keep forwarding to the other videos. Is there a way for the fast forward control to stop exactly at the end of a chapter point? Any kind of help and advice would be very much appreciated. Thanks.

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Using same chapter points for separate projects

When I use the "Replace Asset" operation to replace one video asset on a timeline with another of the same format, the chapter points remain unchanged. This is a very useful feature, because often one needs to make some minor changes to a video asset (e.g., to correct an mistake), and it's nice not to have to redo all the chapter points on the timeline.
But it seems that it isn't possible to replace a video asset of one format with the same video asset encoded in another format. Nor can I take chapter points and move them or share them between timelines or projects.
Any way around this problem? I'm getting tired of having to replace chapter points and relink them with menu buttons because I can't figure how to share them between projects, titles, timelines, or do a simple Replace between differing video formats.

You can replace with different formats as long as the audio matches.
For example, you can't replace an .avi file (which has PCM audio) with an elementary .m2v mpeg video stream (which doesn't have audio at all), or with a muxed .mpg file that has .ac3 audio. But you can replace that .avi file with a muxed .mpg file that has PCM audio. My tests reveal that you also have a little more "audio latitude" when replacing .mpg files with .wmv files.
You cannot share assets or objects between projects in CS3 or earlier. You can't do it in CS4 either, but because of the new dynamic link with Premiere Pro, you import a Pr sequence without having to render to an intermediate mpeg or avi or mov file. That makes the replace asset issue moot, because any change you make to the Pr sequence is immediately updated in Encore's timeline.

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Any suggestions?
Thanks
Ken Fong

So you should NOT have END actions set on the Chapter points, to play the whole timeline from Chapter 1, in Play Movie button.
So how do we use the Chapters, when used individually?
Can you set different end actions in a Play List, than in a sub menu for playing certain chapters on their own?
So end actions on the sub menu, do not effect the timeline's chapters, so allowing continuous play from the main menu AND separate play in other sub menus?

Menu Button Links Aren't Lost When Adding Additional Premiere Chapter Points

I have a single overriding need in Encore. All other enhancements are secondary.
Problem: If you change Premiere chapter points in a sequence, the Encore menu buttons lose all the chapter point links when the sequence is reloaded.
Let's look at the work flow for a real world production situation.
I create a Premiere sequence with 16 sequence markers as chapter points. In Encore, I create a timeline using the encoded Premiere sequence. I then link buttons in a menu to the chapter points in the timeline. My customer reviews the proto and invariably wants the following changes:
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2) Move existing chapter points.
3) Add or remove some footage from the Premiere sequence.
Ideally, I should be able to add or move chapter points in the Premiere sequence including adding or removing footage. Upon entering Encore, Encore should realize from the date of the encoded m2v and wav sequence files used by the Encore timeline that something has changed and reload the modified files into the timeline. By looking at the chapter names in the Premiere sequence, Encore should match the chapter names in the menu buttons with the Premiere chapter names. Encore should then assume that the Premiere chapter points have moved and accordingly have the menu button point to the new location on the timeline (at the appropriate GOP location).

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Encore progress bar indicates it is reloading.
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Error screen:
Error I’m getting for section titled Notes (PP 45 second video): “End action will not execute because of end action on the final chapter point.”
The icon that shows error is in top line second from end. I’m trying to 'end action' that portion of the video by going back to 'menu default'; also tried end action w/ ‘Stop’ and neither work.
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Select chapter one on that timelne. Look in the properties panel. Does it have an end action? You do not want an end action on the chapter; just on the timeline itself.
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Error message encore cs5 end action can't execute on the final chapter point

Dvd plays great. Exported it as a mpeg 2-dvd, video only. Audio separate as a .wav. imported video as a timeline, audio as an asset. Video is not transcoded.
But I have a sub menu, with 6 chapter markers. I check the project and I get this: "error message encore cs5 end action can't execute on the final chapter point"
Do I need to make a chapter playlist? Because that gave me a "orphaned playlist" error message.
I selected the last chapter masker and had the end action go to the sub menu.
Thanks!

Saw a previous thread where bill hunt said it ignore it and try to burn a copy.

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