Character/paragraph style colour chip

Hi
When I double-click a paragraph or character style and try and edit the colour chip, it doesn't bring up the colour picker. I have a list of predetermined process colours, but I can't make my own. Surely this is wrong?
Thanks
Antony

Make the color change to your type on screen using swatches or color
Click once on the name of the style (you will notice a plus sign)
and the plus is gone showing your selection matches and confirming that style has been redefined
All instances using that style will now show the new color.

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