Character Styles parameters that doesn't apply
Yesterday, I've created a "No Break" character style to use with GREP Styles. In this Style, only the No Break checkbox is checked.
The problem was that the GREP Style expressions .{8}$ worked with all my other character style but the "No Break". I double checked the checkbox and the little summary on the first panel when editing the style was showing "[none] + no break".
Today, i open the document and the "No Break" checkbox wasn't checked. Yesterday it was but did not apply. I checked it and now it work.
Did this happen to anyone else? This is the second time it happen to me.
PS: Before anyone ask, i did reset the prefs (restarting InDesign CS4 with the 4 magic key pressed) and also restarted my computer.
Thanks
Ben
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big_smile wrote:
Via a paragraph style sheet, I need to apply character styles to text that is enclosed in space characters.
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1. Does a PDF document retain paragraph style information that had been applied in InDesign?
2. Can these styles be searched on in the PDF document?
Thank you for your feed-back
Richrpeal wrote:
1. Does a PDF document retain paragraph style information that had been applied in InDesign?
2. Can these styles be searched on in the PDF document?
Thank you for your feed-back
Rich
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