Charging Zen Micro battery quest

Hello all,
I went to charge my Zen Micro 5Gb last night. Plugged the usb end into the Micro and put the plug in the wall socket and the Zen showed it was charging, but I had caught the lead between the li've and neutal pins of the plug, so it wasnt flush in the wall socket.
I unplugged, moved the cable and plugged back in (a matter of no more than 5 -0 seconds) and the Zen did nothing, just a blank screen.
Pulled the plug out again and waiting this time before plugging back in and all went well, 3 hours later all charged.
I assume I spiked the battery? Could I have done any harm to the battery or player?
Any replies would be appreciated.

I guess at worst you might have had an intermittent connection, which in turn might have damaged the player (constant "spiking", as you mentioned).
If the player is fine though it sounds to me like it didn't suffer any damage.

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