ChaRM: 4-System-Landscape possible?

Hello,
regarding our system landscape we have no clue how ChaRM will handle following situation
DEV-System: Development-System were the developments should be done.
QAS-System: Test-System were the tests should be done.
FNC-System: nothing to do here, just for functional tests
PRD-System: Production System
Transport routes are DEV -> transport group which deliveres QAS and FNC, and from QAS -> PRD.
What needs to be done to set this up correctly for ChaRM (e.g.: SMSY-logical components)?
Thanks in advance.

Hi
You have two options:
1) assign FNC to task list: you can start the import to this system in the task list manually
2) or task list without FNC: you can schedule a job 'import all' at FNC or import manually via STMS
Confiiguration:
1) One log. component with D-Q-FNC-P (Q and FNC are of role target systems)
2) One log. component with D-Q-P
regards
Andy

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