ChaRM in two system landscape

Hello Everyone,
I want to implement ChaRM for BIW systems which is a two system landscape: BIWDEV and BIWLIVE . Is it posible to implement ChaRm in a two system landscape /we need three system landscape only for it.I started the ChaRM configuration work but faced certain issues over which i was told tat Charm needs three systems for implementation. Kindly plz suggest and confirm.
Regards,
Somya

Hey Somya,
2 system landscape will also work with CHARM.
CHARM can also be configured in single system landscape.
But the bottomline is you require in all 3 clients to realize charm.
These three clients can belong to same or diffrent systems altogether.
For you i would say, u will require 2 clients in BIWDEV system ( Say BIWDEV:100 as development cleint and BIWDEV:200 as Test client ).
Now you have BIWLIVE system which is our production system, so you require 1 client BIWLIVE system..
So your 3 clients are ready and Change Request management can be realized..
Please Reward with points if this postv was usefull..
Revert For ne clarifications ..
Regards,
Suzzane

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