ChaRM:Logical Components for Projects

Hi Experts,
I have done ChaRM config and i am about to create logical components for the project Project.
I have below two questions please help.
While creating a logical component when i have multiple clients in DEV, QAS and PRD how to proceed and second question is about RFC Users in satellite systems.
1) My ECC landscape have DEV ->100, 200, 300, 400, QAS-> 100, 200, 300, PRD-> 100, 200 with multiple clients.
So while creating logical component do i need mention all clients in the logical component or its enough if i mention DEV->100, QAS->100, PRD->100 ?
If i mention only one client in logical component how transports will move to other clients in DEV, QAS and PRD. Please help.
2) Second question is do we need to create READ, TMW, back rfc users in all clients for DEV, QAS and PRD for above ECC landscape ?
Please help for above question.
Regards
Latha

Hi,
So while creating logical component do i need mention all clients in the logical component or its enough if i mention DEV->100, QAS->100, PRD->100 ?
Yes, you can have this TMS track defined and use SCC1 for performing imports within the system (like QAS 100 to QAS 200 ). Or use the Tranport Target Group option so that your TR is visible in import queue of all system. More info Extended Transport Control (SAP Library - BC Change and Transport Organizer)
2) Second question is do we need to create READ, TMW, back rfc users in all clients for DEV, QAS and PRD for above ECC landscape ?
Yes, you need RFCs b/w your working client (100 ) and 000 client of domain controller. Not for all clients.
Regards,
Vivek

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Alexander
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