Chat with FMSS 3.5? Is it possible?
Hello All,
I was browsing this forum and came across a thread about adding chat to FMS where a forum member posted this link:
https://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashmediaserver/articles/components.html
I am considering purchasing FMSS (can't afford FMIS) and read the text in that link and saw a chat component listed.
Will this work with FMSS 3.5? This would be perfect for what I'm doing.
Thanks in advance!
Sincerely,
wordman
No, like I said, FMSS (3-3.5) is used for pretty much only serving precorded/live media. Check this doc here, it gives a rather deep explanation of who is who regarding editions.
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FlashMediaServer/3.5_TechOverview/flashmediaserver_3.5_tech_ov erview.pdf - p.1-2.
Tip: if that answers your question then mark this thread as answered or helpful.
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Update to kichat: FAQ 3 - How do I get Video and Audio Chats with PCs ?
kichat: FAQ 3 - How do I get Video and Audio Chats with PCs ?
(To Replace http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=406147 if Accepted. )
How do I get Video and Audio Chats with PCs ? iChat FAQ 3 (Updated 7/12/2008)
Applies to iChat 2.x, iChat 3.x and iChat 4.x to any version of AIM on a PC before AIM 6.1
This piece is designed for those trying to connect Mac to PC for Video and Audio chats. Any iChat version Panther and up.
Glossary For This FAQ
This bit is designed for clarity.
Video is the sending and /or recieving of pictures and sound.
Audio is the sending and or receiving of sound only.
One-Way is the ablity to start either an Audio or Video chat from one end to a receipient who can not match your capabilities (or Vice Versa)
What is needed
At the Mac end
A Mac running OS 10.3.x and iChat AV ver 2.1 or 10.4 plus iChat 3 or Leopard and iChat 4
A DSL/Cable/Fibre (Broadband) connection of at least an up link speed of 256kbs.
An AIM , @mac.com or MobileMe (@me.com) account name.
(hosting Multiple person Mac to Mac AV chats requires higher specs and broadband uplink speed).
At the PC end
1 PC running windows XP (home or Pro). THIS A MUST
The AIM Standalone Application, currently at ver. 5.9 at this link. AIM (the Site) now call this version Classic and it cannot be Installed On Vista
Note: there is also Trillian which has a Pro version for $25 that can also Video and Audio chat. The Basic version just Texts and Audio Chats (AIM does not Audio chat)
Some need the aimrtc12.exe file from Here Mostly Earlier than XP or Pre Service Pack 2 XP versions of Windows
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An AIM account/screen name (AOL or Netscape count as well)
Service Pack 2 info. This info will allow the PC user to enable AIM thorough the XP Firewall. The Windows Firewall did not exist as such before this
Between both of you.
At least one camera (Mac end)
A sound input device (the camera, if it has one is ok)
Your Buddies screen/account name in each others Buddy Lists
Other tweaks
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This is an icon button lower right on the Buddy List marked "Prefs" (AIM 5.5). This leads to the Preferences. Drop down the list until you read Live Video. Click on this. In the new window that opens click the button that says Tuning Video and Audio. Follow the instructions in the wizard that opens up. Access in AIM 5.9 for this is in the My AIM menu at the top of the Buddy list and then Options
To Start
You should now be able to chat to each other.
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To start from the PC end you need to start a text chat, then select the Video icon at the bottom of the chat window.
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To start this type of chat from the Mac end you will have to go to the menu item "Buddies" and drop down to the item "Invite to One Way Video Chat"
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4:24 PM Sunday; December 7, 2008kichat: FAQ 3 - How do I get Video and Audio Chats with PCs ?
(To Replace http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=406147 if Accepted. )
How do I get Video and Audio Chats with PCs ? iChat FAQ 3 (Updated 7/12/2008)
Applies to iChat 2.x, iChat 3.x and iChat 4.x to any version of AIM on a PC before AIM 6.1
This piece is designed for those trying to connect Mac to PC for Video and Audio chats. Any iChat version Panther and up.
Glossary For This FAQ
This bit is designed for clarity.
Video is the sending and /or recieving of pictures and sound.
Audio is the sending and or receiving of sound only.
One-Way is the ablity to start either an Audio or Video chat from one end to a receipient who can not match your capabilities (or Vice Versa)
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A DSL/Cable/Fibre (Broadband) connection of at least an up link speed of 256kbs.
An AIM , @mac.com or MobileMe (@me.com) account name.
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Some need the aimrtc12.exe file from Here Mostly Earlier than XP or Pre Service Pack 2 XP versions of Windows
Note: It has been noted that this file is now just another link to the Standalone application. This might be an error by AIM or a newer version that includes the file.
An AIM account/screen name (AOL or Netscape count as well)
Service Pack 2 info. This info will allow the PC user to enable AIM thorough the XP Firewall. The Windows Firewall did not exist as such before this
Between both of you.
At least one camera (Mac end)
A sound input device (the camera, if it has one is ok)
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This is an icon button lower right on the Buddy List marked "Prefs" (AIM 5.5). This leads to the Preferences. Drop down the list until you read Live Video. Click on this. In the new window that opens click the button that says Tuning Video and Audio. Follow the instructions in the wizard that opens up. Access in AIM 5.9 for this is in the My AIM menu at the top of the Buddy list and then Options
To Start
You should now be able to chat to each other.
If each of you has a camera it can be full Video , as described in the Glossary at the top.
To start from the Mac end, select (highlight) your Buddy with one click. His camera icon should be dark. Click on the icon near his name or the one at the bottom of the Buddy List. (You do not have to start a text chat).
To start from the PC end you need to start a text chat, then select the Video icon at the bottom of the chat window.
If one of you has a camera and the other has a Mic then you will be able to chat One Way but have sound will be both ways.
To start this type of chat from the Mac end you will have to go to the menu item "Buddies" and drop down to the item "Invite to One Way Video Chat"
To start this from a PC follow the directions in the pargraph above. You may need to change the tab to the incoming Video at the back of the two to see the Video. These tabs are added when the Video chat starts and the front one normally states you do not have a camera and shows a connection to buy one.
It is also possible to chat One Way if the other person does not have a Mic: replies will have to be typed in a Text chat.
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Summary
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NOTE: At This Time It Is NOT Possible to Audio (sound only) between Mac & PC with AIM & iChat
Trillian Basic can Audio. Trillian Pro can Video and has a bigger picture and can do Full Screen.
Another explanation of the set up can be found Here about AIM 5.5 but is transferable.
And Also here
My Web Pages particularly all of Page 12: What if your Girlfriend Lives a Long Way Away ? have more information.
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Kichat: FAQ 3 - How do I get Video and Audio Chats with PCs ?
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Applies to iChat 2.x, iChat 3.x and iChat 4.x to any version of AIM on a PC before AIM 6.1
See bottom section on AIM 6.5 and 6.8 on XP and Vista.
This piece is designed for those trying to connect Mac to PC for Video and Audio chats. Any iChat version Panther and up.
Glossary For This FAQ
This bit is designed for clarity.
Video is the sending and /or receiving of pictures and sound.
Audio is the sending and or receiving of sound only.
One-Way is the ability to start either an Audio or Video chat from one end to a recipient who can not match your capabilities (or Vice Versa)
What is needed
At the Mac end
A Mac running OS 10.3.x and iChat AV ver 2.1 or 10.4 plus iChat 3 or Leopard and iChat 4
A DSL/Cable/Fibre (Broadband) connection of at least an up link speed of 256kbs.
An AIM , @mac.com or MobileMe (@me.com) account name.
(hosting Multiple person Mac to Mac AV chats requires higher specs and broadband uplink speed).
At the PC end
1 PC running windows XP (home or Pro). THIS A MUST
The AIM Standalone Application, currently at ver. 5.9 at this link. AIM (the Site) now call this version Classic and it cannot be Installed On Vista
Note: there is also Trillian which has a Pro version for $25 that can also Video and Audio chat. The Basic version just Texts and Audio Chats (AIM does not Audio chat)
Some need the aimrtc12.exe file from Here Mostly Earlier than XP or Pre Service Pack 2 XP versions of Windows
An AIM account/screen name (AOL or Netscape count as well)
Service Pack 2 info. This info will allow the PC user to enable AIM thorough the XP Firewall. The Windows Firewall did not exist as such before this.
Between both of you.
At least one camera (Mac end works better)
A sound input device (the camera, if it has one is ok)
Your Buddies screen/account name in each others Buddy Lists
Other tweaks
For some people, using AIM on a PC, may also have to make sure their preferences (properties) are set in the AIM Buddy list, for their camera and /or Mic. (Tuning at Message 570)
This is an icon button lower right on the Buddy List marked "Prefs" (AIM 5.5). This leads to the Preferences. Drop down the list until you read Live Video. Click on this. In the new window that opens click the button that says Tuning Video and Audio. Follow the instructions in the wizard that opens up. Access in AIM 5.9 for this is in the My AIM menu at the top of the Buddy list and then Options
To Start
You should now be able to chat to each other.
If each of you has a camera it can be full Video , as described in the Glossary at the top.
To start from the Mac end, select (highlight) your Buddy with one click. His camera icon should be dark. Click on the icon near his name or the one at the bottom of the Buddy List. (You do not have to start a text chat).
To start from the PC end you need to start a text chat, then select the Video icon at the bottom of the chat window.
If one of you has a camera and the other has a Mic then you will be able to video chat One Way but sound will be both ways.
To start this type of chat from the Mac end you will have to go to the menu item "Buddies" and drop down to the item "Invite to One Way Video Chat"
To start this from a PC follow the directions in the paragraph above. You may need to change the tab to the incoming Video at the back of the two to see the Video. These tabs are added when the Video chat starts and the front one normally states you do not have a camera and shows a connection to buy one.
It is also possible to chat One Way if the other person does not have a Mic: replies will have to be typed in a Text chat.
No Camera and No Mic will cause iChat to End the chat with "No Data Received for 10 Secs"
Summary
PC end gets AIM 5.9 or Trillian Pro.
The PC end allows the app through the XP Firewall.
AIM 5.9 needs "Tuning" to Camera and Mic.
For any sort of sound to a PC using AIM, (Talk in PC or Audio in iChat) the Mac will need a camera. The other person can have a Mic and then live chats with sound both ways and Pictures (Video) One-Way.
NOTE: At This Time It Is NOT Possible to Audio (sound only) between Mac & PC with AIM & iChat
Trillian Basic can Audio. Trillian Pro can Video and has a bigger picture and can do Full Screen.
Another explanation of the set up can be found Here about AIM 5.5 but is transferable to AIM 5.9.
And Also here
My Web Pages particularly all of Page 12: What if your Girlfriend Lives a Long Way Away ? have more information.
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AIM 6.5 and 6.8 On Vista and XP
AIM 5.9 or earlier can not be installed on Vista.
AIM 6.5 and 6.8 use a new video codec with a description of "Real Time IM"
AIM have an FAQ page about this
Below the pics is this quote
What do I need to use Real-Time IM?
You and your buddy need to be using AIM® 6.8 or higher to use Real-Time IM. Unfortunately, Real-Time IM does not yet work with older AIM clients, iChat®, or AIM® for Mac®.
See items 5 through 13 on this page for alternatives including Web Browser based ones.
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How do I get Video and Audio Chats with PCs ?: FAQ 3
How do I get Video and Audio Chats with PCs ? (Updated 24/11/05) iChat FAQ 3
Applies to iChat 3.x and iChat 2.x
This piece is designed for those trying to connect Mac to PC for Video and Audio chats. Any iChat version Panther and up.
Glossary For This FAQ
This bit is designed for clarity.
Video is the sending and /or recieving of pictures and sound.
Audio is the sending and or receiving of sound only.
One-Way is the ablity to start either an Audio or Video chat from one end to a receipient who can not match your capabilities (or Vice Versa)
What is needed
At the Mac end
1 Mac running OS 10.3.x and iChat AV ver 2.1 or 10.4 plus iChat 3
A DSL (Broadband) connection of at least an up link speed of 256kbs.
An AIM or .Mac.com account name.
(hosting Multiple person AV chats requires higher specs and broadband uplink speed).
At the PC end
1 PC running windows XP (home or Pro). THIS A MUST
The AIM Standalone Application, currently at ver. 5.9 at this link.
Note: there is also Trillian Which has a Pro version for $25 that can also Video and Audio chat. The Basic just Texts and Audio Chats (AIM does not Audio chat)
Some need the file from item 2 Here
Note: It has been noted that this file is now just another link to the Standalone application. This might be an error by AIM or a newer version that includes the file.
An AIM account/screen name (AOL or Nescape count as well)
Service Pack 2 info. This info will allow the PC user to enable AIM thorough the XP Firewall.
Between both of you.
At least one camera (Mac end)
A sound input device (the camera, if it has one is ok)
Your Buddies screen/account name in each others Buddy Lists
Other tweaks
For some people, using AIM on a PC, may also have to make sure their preferences (properties) are set in the AIM Buddy list, for their camera and /or Mic. (Tuning)
This is an icon button lower right on the Buddy List marked "Prefs" (AIM 5.5). This leads to the Preferences. Drop down the list until you read Live Video. Click on this. In the new window that opens click the button that says Tuning Video and Audio. Follow the instructions in the wizard that opens up. Access in AIM 5.9 for this is in the My AIM menu at the top of the Buddy list and then, Options
To Start
You should now be able to chat to each other.
If each of you has a camera it can be full Video , as described in the Glossary at the top.
To start from the Mac end, select (highlight) your Buddy with one click. His camera icon should be dark. Click on the icon near his name or the one at the bottom of the Buddy List. (You do not have to start a text chat).
To start from the PC end you need to start a text chat, then select the Video icon at the bottom of the chat window.
If one of you has a camera and the other has a Mic then you will be able to chat One Way but have sound returned to you.
To start this type of chat from the Mac end you will have to go to the menu item "Buddies" and drop down to the item "Invite to One Way Video Chat"
To start this from a PC follow the directions in the pargraph above. You may need to change the tab to the incoming Video at the back of the two to see the Video. These tabs are added when the Video chat starts and the front one normally states you do not have a camera and shows a connection to buy one.
It is also possible to chat One Way if the other person does not have a Mic: replies will have to be typed in a Text chat.
Summary
For any sort of sound to a PC using AIM, (Talk in PC or Audio in iChat) the Mac will need a camera. The other person can have a Mic and then live chats with sound both ways and Pictures (Video) the other.
NOTE: At This Time It Is NOT Possible to Audio (sound only) between Mac & PC with AIM & iChat
Trillian Basic can Audio. Trillian Pro can Video and has a bigger picture and can do Full Screen.
Another explanation of the set up can be found Here
My Web Pages
Happy Chatting.
RalphHi Ralph,
Just a type, you misspelled Netscape...
An AIM account/screen name (AOL or Nescape count as well) -
Video chatting with windows vista
is it possible to video chat with window or windows vista? whenever i try t chat with someone who also has a camera it says communication error. does anyone have any answers or advice?
Hi,
They need to be using AIM 6.1
They need to allow the app through the Vista Firewall ( I presume this is similar to the XP one as no-one is saying different)
They have to navigate to the app called AIM6.exe rather than just AIM as the instructions say (was written for AIm 5.9)
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First of all, I would have to say that getting in touch with you is a nightmare and I am not at all happy that I can't just email or live chat with someone who can help! I am not a technical person, I just want to be able to use Photoshop Elements and get on with it. I bought Photoshop Elements via Amazon some months ago and it worked fine. I then got a message that advised that the trial version would expire, which it subsequently has (I have been trawling your site for weeks and weeks trying to find an email or phone contact to get some assistance). Relucltantly, I am now typing this - and I suspect it will not help in the slightest! I bought the FULL not TRIAL edition of Photoshop Elements and I have contacted Amazon who confirmed this, but say I need to contact you. Can you please let me know how I can resolve this? Louise A Fraser
Hi Louise, sorry to hear of your problems. This is not Adobe. We are mainly support volunteers, other users like you, trying to help one another. You need to contact Adobe directly for activation and licencing issues. Click the link below. Use the dropdown menu for boxes (1) & (2) to scroll down the list and choose:
1. Adobe Photoshop Elements
2. Adobe ID, and signing-in
3. Click on the blue button: Still need help? Contact us – then click the area marked chat 24/7, then click “start chat ”
It’s usually possible to start a live chat, if an Adobe agent is free, and often to get the problem fixed right away. Have your serial number available. The agent can directly troubleshoot your system if you agree to activate the Adobe Connect add-on. Don’t let them pass the buck. Stay connected and ask to speak with a supervisor if necessary.
Click here to get help now Contact Customer Care -
Like to set up video chat with Edinburgh Scotland
I would like to set up a video chat with my 87 year old uncle near Edinburgh Scotland and my 88 year old Mother in the US.
I plan to have her over for the chat as a surprise.
My Uncle has a PC - (connect speed unknown.) He is partially capable of setting up his end, but may not know enough to get started.
He sent me a site to download MicroSoft messenger 6.02 for Mac which I did just to have but prefer the iChat route.
I have a new MBPro 2.4ghz with an iChat name ready to go, I believe.
I have a Granddaughter in Kansas with a new MacBook that I would like to set up with as well. I can think of so many possibilities with this new tool.
Back to the the Uncle. He sent me an email address to connect with him, ... which I questioned.
This is his latest message to me after I quizzed him about his current computer.
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Harold
We use a PC and our video connection is on Windows Live Messenger which uses e-mail address style contact details as listed below. Below is an internet link which has a download for Microsoft Live Messenger to run on Apple Mac. If you download and enter the address below as a contact we should be able to hook up?
Bob & Peg
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It would mean a great deal for the two seniors if we could make a live visit possible as neither are able to travel to different countries.
I know our main guys for chatting are in the UK and one is listed in Scotland so maybe if you guys are available .....
HaroldHi Harold,
Welcome Back.
I would tend to agree with Defcom on this.
Trying to sort out any contact with iChat to MSN/Live Messenger and explaining all the limitations would detract from the people involved enjoyment.
Also the other options of a Mac based and Video capable application would also take some explaining and have limits (no Audio)
In this case Skype can be downloaded for PC and for Mac from the Links Defcom gave and requires little in the way of setting up.
For purists reading this.
1) iChat can talk to PCs if the PC is also using a AIM (AOL Instant Message Client) such AIM for PC or Trillian.
2) There are Applications (effectively still in beta) that can at least Video (moving pics only) to MSN on a PC that can be downloaded for the Mac.
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My brother and I are trying to have a video chat between our 2 macs. His is a brand new imac, purchased this week. Mine is a 2006 macbook pro. I have an AIM account and he has both an AIM account and a .mac account. Everytime we try to talk we get a communication error. I will paste some of the details below. I have video chatted with another friend who has an imac with no problems at all (although this was several months ago).
Here is a portion of the lengthy error details:
Thanks Scott
Date/Time: 2007-09-26 19:35:24.528 -0400
OS Version: 10.4.10 (Build 8R2218)
Report Version: 4
iChat Connection Log:
AVChat started with ID 3193720808.
0xe407860: State change from AVChatNoState to AVChatStateWaiting.
rustymacklin12: State change from AVChatNoState to AVChatStateInvited.
0xe407860: State change from AVChatStateWaiting to AVChatStateConnecting.
rustymacklin12: State change from AVChatStateInvited to AVChatStateConnecting.
0xe407860: State change from AVChatStateConnecting to AVChatStateEnded.
Chat ended with error -8
rustymacklin12: State change from AVChatStateConnecting to AVChatStateEnded.
Chat ended with error -8
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@:0 type=4 (00000000/22)
[VCSIP_INVITEERROR]
[19]
@SIP/SIP.c:2448 type=4 (900A0015/22)
[SIPConnectIPPort failed]
@SIP/SIP.c:2448 type=4 (900A0015/22)
[SIPConnectIPPort failed]
@SIP/SIP.c:2448 type=4 (900A0015/22)
[SIPConnectIPPort failed]
Message was edited by: Rusty68Hi Rusty,
Error 8 has always been there since iChat 2.x (Although it is not until the error logs pop was introduced to 10.4.7 that it actually had a name for us users).
As to whose fault it is, is many and varied.
As the Article you link to says iChat uses the SIP (Session Initiation Protocol) as Apple has said iChat is a VoIP app and all VoIP use SIP.
Not all modem and router manufacturers handle SIP or VoIP properly all the time. Some go as far as making it always use one port instead of the SIP Standards 4 ports (It will use of the 4)
As AIM (application or the servers) do not use SIP it can not be AIM's fault.
Not all modem and Router manufacturers do NAT the same way further adding to the problem.
Lastly if it was working and now does not the also look carefully at what your ISP is doing.
Many are now trying to set up VoIP services. For this they try charging for thus service. One way is to block the SIP ports until the end user pays. In effect changing your Internet service in some cases without telling you.
Remember that if set Port Forwarding and kept your Modem or router doing DHCP then the IP your computer gets from that DHCP server could also have changed.
If a Home network (LAN) is set out in a linear fashion even if NAT is used then iChat will work.
This means if your Modem and router can not do UPnP and have to use a NAT based method like Port Forwarding then you have to set up a Static route from modem to Router and possibly router to computer and not have overlapping subnets caused by two DHCP servers.
MOdem with Static routing <-> ROuter in bridge or Static <-> computer
Not modem doing DHCP
Router doing DHCP
giving a computer two IPs
I have shown it this way to demonstrate more visually the overlapping.
Yes, it is fair to say that iChat has trouble with NAT, but it is mostly about how the LAN is set up, which can include using Wireless and Ethernet at the same time. IT is also true that many on-line games will have the same trouble.
Yes, Apple also run the SIP server that iChat connects to which handles ALL A/V chats and it could lose contact with the AIM servers or the AIM servers with it and lose the ability to contact the AIM screen names.
So in summary.
Could be your LAN and any setting (Except UPnP) used with a DHCP server.
Could be your ISP changing your Internet Service for their VoIP service.
Partly it is Apple for choosing the International SIP Standard
Partly it is due to the myriad ways modem and router manufacturers construct their firmware.
More specifically;
Without you "changing Anything" it can be your OWN DHCP server.
IT could be your ISP.
We have yet to touched on features on modems and routers that see the amount of Data iChat can send as an Attack on your connection and end the chat.
9:11 PM Sunday; September 30, 2007 -
One-way video chat with iSight on Mac to PC via AIM
I recently bought an iSight camera for my powerbook G4. I am having trouble getting a video chat connected to my friend who is using AIM 5.5 on his PC. I am using AIM 4.7 for macintosh. Are there any tips on getting a one way video chat started?? he doesn not have a webcam
Hello Ivy,
Welcome to Apple Discussions.
Your PC pal should upgrade to the current AIM 5.9. If fixes some of 5.5's problems.
AIM for Mac has no video (or audio) capability). More info in the MSN, Yahoo, Win Messengers & iChat? FAQ.
See Using iSight with iChat AV for info on how to use your iSight for video chat.
Then, see Mac Video Chat with PCs for info on making video connections with PCs.
For more information on one-way video, search your Mac's
b iChat > Help > iChat Help
for "one-way video" (without the quotation marks).
The requirements for one-way video are the same as for two-way video except for one camera.
One-way video between an iSight-equipped Mac and a correctly configured PC is possible for most users. However, some users report that they can just NEVER get it to work. We do not know why that is. Adding any compatible USB webcam to the PC system (and "tuning" correctly after the addition) should let you make video connections if you are one who cannot make it work without a camera. -
Cant Chat With Others on Different networks
Me and My girlfriend are able to chat between a PC and mac in my apt on my wireless network here but when we try and chat with others off the network we both have problems and errors keep being posted. I cant even do it with my brother who has another mac with the built in camera. Does anyone know how to fix this, Ive tried cruising the internet but all the forums i can find don't really help or say much. Thanks.
Ok.
You have not said if the PC is set up for Bonjour so I presume you are using the AIM side of iChat.
It is possible that act of calling out is opening the ports required even though in effect you are calling yourself (or at least the same Public IP) and therefore data is allowed back in again.
You will probably need to open the ports in the routing device for iChat.
If she wants to do it on the PC then the ports for AIr will also need to be opened.
if the device has UPnP that is an On/Off setting that will do all the ports required. It allows the apps to control the ports.
If you can tell the devices ivolved in connecting to the internet and what you have done to set them up someone may be able to be more specific.
10:37 PM Tuesday; June 3, 2008 -
Can I chat with someone who uses Windows LiveMessenger?
Hi,
Is it possible for me to use iChat to talk with my son, who is using Windows LiveMessenger (beta)?
PatrickiChatAV is currently not compatable with MSN Live Messenger. Sorry!
I would suggest your son get's AIM 5.9, that way you should be able to text and video chat with him. -
Text chat with Trillian users = DSL crash every time
Hello all,
I'm running iChat 3.1.8 (v445) on an iBook G4 running OS 10.4.9, with a Zyxel Prestige 600 series modem.
iChat works fine for me...until i begin text chatting with Trillian users. The result is always the same: The first time they chat with me, whether they initiate the chat or respond to my initiation, my DSL crashes. Once I wait for my DSL to cycle or switch to stealing my neighbors' wireless, it works fine for the most part, though I do experience periodic DSL crashes after the first crash.
Every single time. I've tested this with various friends, and it is only happening with Trillian users.
I've got my built-in firewall on, with ports 5060, 5190, 5297, 5298, 5678, and 16384-16403 open for both TCP and UDP.
I'm logging onto an AIM account on login.oscar.aol.com on port 5190.
TIA for any help offered.Hi sbcreducer,
At one time it was possible to bring down a web server by many people getting organised and all trying to get the same page at the same time. This was called a Denial of Service attack (DoS)
Nowadays many modems and routers have protection against this even though you may not even be allowed by your ISP to run a web server from your end. (Your own web pages for instance)
This protection comes in about three main ways but essentially they monitor the amount of data coming to the modem or router (and request for a web page still means data in coming to make that request) and then cut the flow of data to stop you losing the internet connection.
One method is called Stateful Packet Inspection (SPI)
Another is Quality of Service (QoS) and lastly
Denial Of Service (DoS).
Now as to where this seting is on each manufacturers device is a bit of a guess.
In these pics at Port Forwarding.com of a Linksys, in the third pic of the Linksys you can see it in Gaming and Applications as a sub tab (near Port Forwarding but to the right)
On my Netgear it is on the WAN page and Called DOS.
On some Netgears it is on the same page of the Setup pages but called SPI
USing this site http://portforward.com/routers.htm you can look up your device.
Click on it.
At the next page select iChat from the list.
AT the next page it will tell you the default IP address the device is likely to use and the Default USer ID and Password so you can gain access to the set up pages via a web browser.
After that it a question of checking all the menu items to see if you have it.
Check anything that says Filters, and Firewalls as it can be regarded as a second level firewall, as well as the places I suggested above.
Not all device have this of course.
7:14 PM Friday; April 13, 2007 -
No A/V chat together, however we can A/V chat with others
Here is a New Year's puzzle for Ralph...I want to help a friend via Messages screen sharing. When chat with him however, all of the A/V choices are grayed out. But I can do A/V chat with others, as can he! We both have gmail accounts.
Connection Doctor says no bandwidth problems, every type of connection has a green check, but CD indicates that the router type is not fully compatible with A/V chatting. Router has uPnP enabled.
Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
Using an MBP with 10.8.2, Belkin G router, cable internet.HI,
Is the Buddy actually using iChat or Messages ?
If they are logged in to Google using a Web Browser (or even another app) you will not be able to Video or Audio Chat with them.
Of course he could have the Mic and Camera turned Off (Unticked) at his end.
It is vaguely possibly he does not have enough Internet Speed for A/V chats (Dial-up speeds below 28kbps)
10:38 PM Tuesday; January 8, 2013
Please, if posting Logs, do not post any Log info after the line "Binary Images for iChat"
iMac 2.5Ghz 5i 2011 (Mountain Lion 10.8.2)
G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
Mac OS X (10.6.8),
Couple of iPhones and an iPad
"Limit the Logs to the Bits above Binary Images." No, Seriously
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