Cheap ram better on my MSI K8N neo

Here is something that may be of use to someone out there.
After I bought my K8N neo plat a couple weeks ago I planned to use some old Corsair XMS 3500C2 ram on it. It would run OK at DDR400 with settings at 2.5,3,3,8, 2T. But I would sometimes get some errors in memtest on test 5. If I tried to run at cas2, I'd get about 150 errors in one pass and get errors all the time.
I thought I'd try another stick of ram I had sitting here. It's Kingston DDR400 value ram. SPD 3,3,3,8 2T. I put it in and ran memtest. No errors! So I lower the settings to see what it would do. I got to 2,3,2,6 1T. No errors!
I haven't tried to overclock the fsb yet. But I might as well leave this cheap $50 ram in here for now. It is performing better than my $150 Corsair PC3500 at stock cpu settings. I'm in the process of trying to get an RMA from the ram guy at Corsair at the moment. I don't know if it is bad or just won't work well on the K8N board.

As i hve posted before i had a KHX 3200 BH-5 with 2.2.2.5 and the damn thing was causing all sorts of probs.Ran Memtest and it was hell.
I took it back and bought 2 sticks of Value Ram 512 and i've had 0 PROBLEMS since
I have managed to go upto 230 HT for just a few minutes but then the PC locks up.
I have been stable at 225 but thats about it.Kinda makes me thing if the "support upto 450 HT " in the 1.4 bios release is in fact the brick wall im hitting.
The problem is though...i can't get much lower timings with this Ram, 2.5 , 3, 3, 7 is my best result so far.Lower than that is a NO BOOT.But i think this might be a "2 stick problem"... Oh well...The quest goes on....

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MSI K8N Neo Platinum & Crucial Ballistix 512MB RAM Problem

I have had MSI K8N Neo Platinum and 1x Crucial Ballistix 512MB RAM for 11 months.
I have had 1x Crucial Ballistix 512MB RAM for 2.5 months, for a total of two.
I have had MSI GeForce 6600GT (NX6600GT-VTD) 128MB AGP for 1 month.
For about 1.5 to 2 weeks, I have been seeing random crashes while playing PC games.
I started a thread on the Hard OCP forums a few days ago. I did not know MSI had forums =)
Rather than re-typing, I may as well just post the link:
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=934956
My issue is also similar to this one:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=83799.0
Thanks for the help.

ALL RIGHT, after almost FOUR months my issue is FINALLY resolved.
It is amazing how much time passes when you are hesitant to buy parts unless you are 95% sure it will fix the problem.
OK, here is an update as to what I remember.
I went to BIOS 1.4 and tried many different physical and BIOS RAM configurations (Different seating, different number of DIMMs, different RAM timings, voltages, etc).
I concluded that I could not make my PC 100% stable, but I could get it darn close. With certain settings, such as DDR400, 2-2-2-6, 1T, 2.80V, Aggressive Timing enabled, Memtest failed test #5 every time (this is spec for my RAM). With other settings, such as DDR333, 2.5-3-3-7, 2T, Auto V, Aggressive Timing enabled, Memtest failed test #5 maybe once out of 5000.
I also concluded that the RAM voltage and Aggressive Timing setting was having a big impact. Some settings would not work (failed Memtest) with RAM at 2.80V but would work with RAM at Auto V. Some settings would not work (failed Memtest) with Aggressive Timing enabled but would work with it disabled.
Finally, I started to occasionally get R,G,R,G (Processor Initialization) on the D-Bracket upon cold-start & warm-start, which suggests a PSU issue:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=76972.msg542545#msg542545
That pushed me over the top, and I decided to buy a new PSU (TG-480-U22) and a new SATA HDD (WD2500KS) just because.
Problem solved. Thanks for all the help.
I will continue to buy MSI in the future just because of these forums…and a good product of course!

MSI K8N NEO PLATINUM (RAM/HD problem/mobo problem?) [SOLVED]

my setup:
windows xp pro sp2
amd athlon 64 3200+
msi k8n neo plat - 7030 - bios 2.1
x800 xt vid
sound blaster audigy 2
kingston valueram pc3200 2x512 cas 3-3-3-8
ps = antec 430 watt truepower power supply (20 A on 12V)
I dont know if you guys remember my but i created a topic on here a while back about how my keyboard and mouse suddenly stopped working, well that turned out to be that the msi k8n neo platinum just went bad. So i RMA'd it and recently got the replacement board (with latest bios already installed). It worked completely fine for about a day. Well that same day i got it back, i installed a Logitech G7 USB wireless mouse. after i installed it, i began getting numerous windows stop blue screen errrors, even after i removed the mouse from control panel. So i figured i should format because to rule out everything and start fresh. So i did a FULL format and attempted the reinstall windows again. AFTER the format and BEFORE windows attempted the continue installation, i got the same stop error. I figured now this was a hardware problem. So first i tested RAM. I got the latest version of memtest86 and let it run for 4 hours (11 passes) with NO errors at all. Secondly, i got a western digital hard drive diagnostic program to test for failing hard drive and again no problems with that. I still suspected ram so i tried to boot with only 1 stick installed (in first slot), however the PC didnt boot at all (cleared cmos too). So i moved it to the second slot and cleared cmos again and this time it posted but it just hangs at a cursor and does nothing, same thing happened with third slot. I tried this same procedure clearning cmos each time with the second ram stick and got the SAME results. Shouldnt the motherboard boot with only 1 ram stick installed? Did MSI RMA me another bad board? Any help would be appreciated. thanks.

Quote from: russellmrgn on 28-March-06, 10:54:39
Sap147
Can you give us what the D-Bracket was showing ie
R R
G R
As an example this means "Initializing Keyboard Controller"
You will find this information in the manual page 2-23. (On mine) under Hardware Setup
Also can you please do all your tests with the ps2 keyboard and mouse and for now leave your Logitech G7 USB wireless mouse to one side.
Russell
for two sticks of ram = RR
GG
for one stick of ram = GR
GG
as for the g7, it hasnt been plugged in at all, i took it out long ago.. as for the ram, the timing was set to 2T, no overclocking, i will try 2.7 v and let you know, but for the record, it has been running at normal voltage settings for about a year perfectly fine.

[ram]Kingston + MSI K8N Neo-FSR?

my system:
AMD Athlon 64 3000+, 2.0ghz
MSI K8N Neo-FSR(bios 1.40)
Asus V9999 GeForce 6800 256MB Gamer Ed. AGP
Audigy 2 zs
Win xp pro sp1
Hiper power 420W
I just bought the Kingston ValueR. PC3200 DDR-DIMM 1024MB Kit w/two matched ValueRAM 512MB.
When I boot up the pc just makes a sound piip piip piiip continuing....
I can't do anything since it wont boot up & i tried diffrent dimm slots but it didn't work :(
Earlier i've set the settings to t1 & the volt to 2.56 from before. Does this has something to do with it ? How can I reset the bios if I can't even get in dos :s
What should I do ?

Reset the cmos using the Jumper, is you have a manual it will show you where this is located. It will set the Bios back to Default,then you have to set it up the way you want it again. To get the RAM working set it to DDR333=166, that should sort out the No Post.
Your going to be out of luck here as the 'support' is basicaly non-existent, or just replies from people trying to get their post count up higher, I'm afraid to say.
Good luck.

MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition Memory plz help!

Hi
http://www.datorbutiken.com/se/defa...2X512DDRCA400PR
Is this memory ok with MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition ?
If it is, do you know how well its oc:s?

He would be talking about this:
http://www.newegg.com/app/viewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-466&depa=0
But I wouldn't reccomend that memory mainly because I have heard mixed reviews about it. You can get the same (if not better) memory at either of these links, the only difference between the two links is the color of the heatspreader (as far as i can tell). This is the memory I have and it works very well, plus its much cheaper:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-449&depa=0
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=20-145-450&depa=0

MSI K8N Neo 4-F Mobo/AMD64 3200+ and OCZ 3200 FREEZE HELP!

I have an AMD64 Winchester 3200+ Processor running on a MSI K8N Neo 4 -F Motherboard. Initially I ran 2 256MB PC-3200 2-3-3-6 modules. When I tried to install Windows it would freeze.. After 3 different attempts I finally got Windows installed, but the freezing continued. Typically it seemed to freeze whenever I installed a Program from CD. For example Office 2003 and was a nightmare. I tried numerous things to stop my problem, but in the end found the only solution was to switch out my two OCZ modules with 1 Muskin 512MB 2.5 3 3 8. Once I did that it ran fine, not as responsive as the OCZ modules but it didnt freeze! So I put the two OCZ modules back in, removed the Muskin and set the timings manually to match those that the Muskin was running on. They seemed fine for awhile, but eventually froze. Once restarted, samething occured. Now I am back on the Muskin RAM. I had planned to order 2 more of the OCZ modules to take myself to 1GB, but obviously that isnt going to work. I am a tad bit stressed out over this. Could the freezing be caused by the memory? I am concerned the memory isnt the issue and that I may have a bigger problem... I am open to ANY advice! I have done alot of googling with no help.

Hi there,
You'd better install windows again, format the drive and reinstall, and in that instalation it should not freeze, if it does then something is wrong, you shouldn't continue the instalation because one of the most common symptoms of a not stable system is a not smooth win instalation.
Let us know of the mem model number so we can help you further, because some of the memory modules from OCZ need alot of Volts to work stable, it can get to 3.0v.
Let us know the mem model e what PSU you have and Amps on it.
Be well....

MSI k8n neo platinum hangs after post single beep

Today I powered off my computer, and when I tried to power it back up the x850 fan just runs at full speed, and never drops to idle and the screen stays dark. If I reset the bios then it will post as far as asking to press Del to enter setup, but freezes at that point. This thing has been running like a champ and this is the first problem I've ever had! I unhooked/unplugged everything but the keyboard/video/ram/cpu. Tried running with four different memory modules in single channel and dual channel but no luck there either. None of the hardware below has been changed in the last six months. Any ideas? TIA!
The indicator lights read:
R G
R G
According to the manual this means:
Testing Base and Extended Memory
Testing base memory from 240K to 640K and extended
memory above 1MB using various patterns.
AMD 64 4000+
MSI K8N Neo Plat Rev1
PQI BH5 512x2
ATI x850 AGP
SATA 10k RPM Primary
Antec P/S

Quote from: flobelix on 07-February-07, 07:09:19
Core2Duo E6400 would be a gain of about 15% compared to 4000+ ( in games 1024x768, no aniso or aa). Quality options and better resolution would shorten the gain. Other applications than games e.g. cinebench would run a lot faster on the C2D. The main advantage compared to the 4000+ would be dual core because many future games will be optimized for this. Question is: Is this worth $272?
With only one 7600GT installed you won't be able to play most of the new games in full detail because of lacking 3d power although Core2Duo installed. The gain of cpu performance will be therefor useless (if main focus is on gaming). 7600GT sli-array would be an option for full detail and using more cpu power but it would also be slower than one 7950GT for nearly the same amount of money spent for 2 7600GT.
1. If you need a gaming pc I'd only buy a new C2D if you can also afford high end vga. Otherwise cpu power is wasted.
2. 7600GT is only an option if you want to save money now and you want a second one later. Buying two now to get a sli-array isn't very clever. Less performance than 7950GT, same price.
3. Buying one gig of ddr2 isn't very clever either. More and more applications need more than 1 gig (for example vista!). When changing to ddr2, change to 2 gig dual channel kit.
4. Getting $300 for your old stuff seems quite optimistic to me.
Conclusion: Save your money for better vga! Take back 7600gt, keep old vga and 4000+, wait for a little time and buy Geforce 8800 GTS. Increase of gaming performance would be unbelieveable. After providing high end vga you can upgrade to C2D in next step and receive a noticeable increase of performance in all kinds of applications.
Hmm.. very good points. I went and read some reviews of the upcoming 8600 and 8800. They are quite impressive for the money. I believe I'll return everything and find a limp-a-long $50 mobo to replace the dead msi. It looks like holding out for quad core with dual SLI is the real gain over my current setup. On a side note I won't be running vista until after sp1 or possible sp2. No tangible benefit to me! What suggestions do you have for a solid performing mobo for the following:
socket 939
4 240pin DDR slots
AGP (My X850 XT is still strong enough for everything I do)
SATA 1.5 (no need for the faster one as I have none of those drives)

Bios from my Msi k8n Neo Platinum (socket 754)

Wich is the last beta bios from my Msi k8n Neo Platinum (socket 754) ?
And where download?
Thanks

A thread here , from when 1.56 appeared:
MSI K8N Neo Plat Beta Bios 1.56
and when 1.55 appeared:
New Bios For MSI K8N Neo Platinum [ 1.55]
Seems to me that the 1.5x series were focused on chipset timings and ram .
Another thing is that i can boot from a usb pen with this one .(never got it to work with others) .
Beta bioses don't come with a changelog , they leak out . So any complete
list of changes is not possible to provide.

Msi k8n neo platinum - The 1394 delete from bios device list

hi.
the line where 1394 was is now empty , i try everything i flash the bios and stuff
no luck for me???
it look like the 1394 onboard conroller is dead?

A thread here , from when 1.56 appeared:
MSI K8N Neo Plat Beta Bios 1.56
and when 1.55 appeared:
New Bios For MSI K8N Neo Platinum [ 1.55]
Seems to me that the 1.5x series were focused on chipset timings and ram .
Another thing is that i can boot from a usb pen with this one .(never got it to work with others) .
Beta bioses don't come with a changelog , they leak out . So any complete
list of changes is not possible to provide.

Unable to install windows XP på MSI K8N NEO

Hi!
I have problems installing windows XP (SP1) with MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition. After I bootet my computer (I build it myself) I noticed I had extrem cpu temperatures (65-70 degrees celcius). A quick search on the net indicated that a bios-upgrade might solve the problem, as my current bios probably showed too high temperatures.
As I had already installed windows XP i downloaded the bios and upgraded using the msi-windows-bios program. And, after the reboot my cpu temerature was 20 degrees lower (45 degrees celcius), which is more normal. But during the bootup of windows I got a blue-screen (or, actully a blue blink, just for a nano-second), and then my computer rebooted.
As the system were fairly new and didn't contain any importaint data, I decided to try to make a fresh install of winXP. But now I get a blue-screen during the installation, when the progress-bar says "installing devices", the blue screen appears when it is about 75%.
The installation of XP went fine before the bios upgrade, and I used XP for several hours without any problems at all - except the high cpu temperatur. Now my cpu temeperatur is acceptable, but XP wont install/boot.
I have tried to disable all the integraded devices (such as firewire, network, sound card etc) in the bios menu, but the XP install still provides a bluescreen during the installation of devices.
My system:
A64 3000+
1024Mb RAM (corsair value, I believe)
Samsung SATA 160Gb HD
Matrox Millenium G400 (I know it is old)
NEC 2510 DVD Burner
As I said, this is propably caused by the new bios, as it did work with the old one. I have also tried "Load failsafe defaults". Do you guys have any ideas of how to fix this? Should I (can I) downgrade my bios (I do not have a floppy drive in the computer).
.wirrum

Hi wirrum,
I see you are Swedish (the på was a give away).
I recently aquired a MSI K8N Neo2 from Komplett - where did you get yours from? maybe that have a bad batch because I am seeing the same problems as you.
I have two different problems , the same stability problems you are seeing and problems with the keyboard (ps2) not always starting up. I'm currently at Bios V1 and after seeing your problems I might just wait with V1.1 unless everything else fails.
Im considering an RMA to komplett soon and asking them for a motherboard that works (maybe from another manufacterer).
I have a decent PSU (Antec Truepower 480) and DDR400 from Kingston thats on their reccommended list, no overclocking, stable settings, I built the thing with ESD protection and carefully. Not overly impressed right now.
Some suggestions - turn off AGP Fastwrite, turn on SATA DMA access if you are using SATA. Turn off any Overclocking, move your memory around , try just one stick in DIMM 1 see if that helps.
I finally managed to get through an XP install but it took 6 hours to install. And it will occasionally stutter then shutdown entirely.
Quality..

*UPDATED 7/15/04* Complete guide to bioses, drivers, and needed files for the MSI K8N Neo Platinum

Complete newbie's guide to bioses, drivers, and needed files for the MSI K8N Neo Platinum:
Last Updated: Thursday July 15th, 2004
Bioses:
(In order of date released.)
1.1b3 - (Download)
- Pre-1.1, given to reviewers to use in their reviews and benchmarks.
- Less stable, but supposedly you get slightly better overclocks.
1.1 Official - (Download)
1. This is AWARD BIOS release
2. This BIOS fixes the following problems of the previous version:
- Memory always run DDR 200 when install single side DDR on DIMM2 & DIMM3.
- Windows 2000 can't format the RAID IDE HDD when plug in Promise 378 controller.
1.2b5 - (Download)
1.2b7 - (No Download Yet)
1.2b10 - (Download)
- First attempt to fix false temperature readings. Fixes it for some people with Newcastle cores and doesn't fix it for anybody with Clawhammer cores.
1.2b12 - (Download)
- Second attempt to fix false temperature readings. Fixes it for some people with Newcastle cores and some people with Clawhammer cores.
1.3b1 - (Download)
- Another attempt to fix temperature problems?
- Possibly fixes cold boot/power light issues?
1.2 Official - (Download)
1. This is AWARD BIOS release
2. This BIOS fixes the following problems of the previous version:
- System can't resume from S3 sometimes when install USB device.
- Support K8 Sempron CPU.
- Turn off keyboard LED in S3.
--Quick Guide for flashing BIOS, provided by MSI--
1. Create a MS-DOS boot diskette, then copy the the .exe and the bios file to the floppy disk. Both of these files can be found in the package you downloaded.
2. Press "Delete" and go to BIOS setup while computer bootup.
Check BIOS advanced features and see if BIOS flash write control is enabled
(This option must be enabled. If you can not find this setting, it means the BIOS can be
flashed.)
3. Boot from MS-DOS boot diskette and get a:\> prompt.
4. Type "", then press ENTER
5. The flash program will then ask "Do you want to save BIOS?", please press "N" for no. The when you see Press 'Y' to program or 'N' to Exit, please press "Y" to continue.
6. After flashing complete, remove floppy and reset the system .
7. Press DELETE or F1 when prompted at first reboot after flashing.
8. Load BIOS optimized defaults, then save settings and exits.
Drivers & Needed Files:
(Note: All these drivers are for Windows XP.)
Leaked Nvidia nForce3 Chipset Drivers Version 4.40
(Please use at your own risk, these are LEAKED drivers. Password for the .zip file is "ocworkbench rules". Also, you will need to rename the WinXP_2K folder in IDE to either WinXP or Win2K else the installer doesn't pick it up.) Thanks for the link Wonkanoby!
*NEW* Leaked Nvidia nForce3 Chipset Drivers Version 5.03
More leaked drivers? Seems some parts of the drivers are older and some are newer.
1. Windows XP Service Pack 1A (Web Install) -or- Windows XP Service Pack 1A (Full Install)
2. Microsoft DirectX 9.0b (Web Install) -or- Microsoft DirectX 9.0b (Full Install)
3. Nvidia nForce3 Chipset Drivers Version 4.24
4. AMD Athlon 64 Processor Driver Version 1.1.0.14
5. Nvidia Video Card Driver Version 56.72 -or- Omega Nvidia Video Card Driver Version v1.5303
(The Omega drivers are third party drivers optimized for gaming, most prefer these over the standard Nvidia drivers.)
5. ATI Video Card Driver Version 4.7 -or- Omega ATI Video Card Driver Version 2.5.51
(The Omega drivers are third party drivers optimized for gaming, most prefer these over the standard ATI drivers.)
6. Onboard Sound Driver (Realtek AC'97 Audio Codec) Version A3.61
It is HIGHLY reccomended that you install the drivers/needed files in the order listed above. Please note that there are two #5's because you either install one or the other depending on your video card, do not install both of them.
You will come across a problem here though. You can't install the chipset drivers without installing the Windows service pack and DirectX first, but the Windows service pack and DirectX installs need the internet to download files and you won't have working internet until you install the chipset drivers. Here's what I did to get around this. Instead of downloading the web install versions of Windows service pack and DirectX, download the full version and and put them along with all the other drivers on a backup hard drive or burn them to a CD, this way you will have all the drivers you need when it's time to install them and none of them will require the internet to download files.
Another note when installing drivers. Apparently the Nvidia chipset drivers also come with drivers for the onboard sound, but people seem to agree that the Realtek onboard sound drivers are better. When you are installing the Nvidia chipset drivers, just be sure to uncheck the box for sound drivers when it asks you which drivers you would like to install. Now you can safely install the Realtek drivers without any chance of conflicting sound drivers. Thanks for the tip Wonkanoby!

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Originally posted by RLiu818
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Originally posted by Deviation56
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Originally posted by RLiu818
You CAN install the nforce drivers BEFORE installing SP1. The only requirement to install the nforce drivers is DX9.
So is SP1 still recommended to install before the nforce drivers?
The installer still reccomends to install it beforehand for full USB 2.0 functionality... I would have put what you said in there but I wanted to keep it as simple as possible.
oh. IIRC the installer just says USB 2.0 will be fully functional after SP1 is installed. So after you install SP1 you go into device manager and u click update driver and it will auto search and update the driver.
Simplicity-wise, i guess its pretty much equal. It might take less preparation to just copy DX9 full onto a CD and install that first, then nforce driver, then right away you have yoru internet connection.
but i dunno.. i guess i will try it your way this time when my RMA"d board comes.
i will be fomratting and doing a fresh install later on today and will let you know if i come across any problems

MSI k8N Neo Plat 2...system freeze and crash during h-end gaming...

MSI k8N Neo Plat 2
AMD athlon 64 3800+
Centon 512 MB DDR 3200 x 4
nvidia geforce fx 5700
win xp pro
Creative Audigy 2
Under some graphically intensive situations, during gaming, especially dealing with alot of background visuals, like fire/lava, etc, the system will after a short while of playing either, crash, freeze, reboot, or freeze while a loud screeching nosie emits from my speakers...I have tried updating my graphx card drivers to the most recent and the symptons still persist..Is there something I need to set in BIOS regarding mem timings, I have tried playing around some, but that hasnt worked either...Any help would be greatly appreciated !!!
,

Try raising RAM voltage to 2.7v - 2.8v.
If no go - Run Memtest86 http://www.memtest.org/#downiso
If no go - Try onboard Audio ( disable / remove Audigy2 )

"error loading operating system MSI K8n Neo platinum

OK,
System will post, according to MSI Website I have the latest Bios version.
I can boot from CD.
The only odd item is that I am using the HD that I took out of my old computer with windows already on it.
Tried re-installing windows XP. It went through the loading process and then rebooted. Same error message appears.
Also, is 48 degrees normal for idle temp on CPU AMD 64 3400? 36 degrees NB temp ok?
Oh, yeah, I have a floppy installed, CD-ROM, CD RW, all non SATA. Using IDE cables.
Video is Asus V9980 ultra GeForce FX 5950.
MSI K8N Neo Platinum
AMD 64 3400
Hercules 600 W PSU
WD 80gb HD
Generic CD-Rom
Sony Cd-RW
2 x 512 crucial 400 ddram slosts 1 and 2
Asus V9980 ultra GeForce FX 5950 256 TVD
Do I need to clear bios and re-start?
HD is on it's own cable in IDE 1
Cds on IDE 2 shared.
let me know what you think.
The other related posts I read, people were using raid or multiple OS. I'm not.

I had the same issues as you sometimes Windows would install and sometimes it wouldn't the problem was related to ram. I had my ram in slots one and two like you did and I moved the ram to slots 1 and 3 and now the machine is rock solid stable.
I think most of the problems people are having are actually more ram related than anything else.
So try moving the stick of ram you have in slot 2 to slot 3 and see if this solves your problem. This solution is on forums somewhere I am just not sure where.
Take care,
Bob

MSI K8n Neo Platinum

Hi Guys,
I am having a problem with my computer at the moment. I am having trouble getting into the BIOS of this motherboard (MSI K8N Neo Platinum). When I try to get into BIOS, it goes into a black screen with a little line on top of it and its blinking. This has never happened before. Then when I shut off my computer since I couldn't get into the bios, I turned it back on and it goes on but nothing goes to screen or it wont boot up to startup screen. Then I turn it off, I reset the BIOS and turn it back on. Now it boots up to the startup screen, but when it says press del to get into bios, I pressed that and it happens again, it will not get into bios. When I do this over again by resetting the bios, this time without getting into BIOS, it goes on and boots up to Windows XP. I want to reformat my hard drive with a fresh copy of XP Pro, but I can't get into BIOS to do that. Can someone help me?

Same thing happened to me today. Thanks MSI for publishing a Betaversion of a BIOSupgrade on the Live update..
At first I figured that there must have been some fault during the BIOSflash so I downloaded the file again and repeated procedure. This time it worked like a charm and I could do all my BIOS-settings. The next restart the problem was back again though, and this time I had swapped the order for my SATA-drives to boot (to the way they should) but the system couldn't boot. So I couldn't enter neither the bios or Windows. Luckily you can shift the primary boot device by pressing F11 though, so I got out of the libido...
Now I've downloaded the old 1.9 Version instead and I sure as h*** won't do any more beta-testing for MSI by using the Live Update anymore!

MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition memory question

Hi there,
I've currently got a MSI K8N NEO Platinum Edition (Nforce 3) motherboard and 2X 512 MB Corsair Value Select memory modules (both double sided) running at DDR 400 - this runs completely stable and has done for a number of months. I would like to increase my memory to 1.5 Gig but there seems to be a lot of issues?
I originally planned to buy an additional 512 Meg Corsair value select chip and place it in Bank 3 - is this acceptable?
I assue that i would have to drop the speed down to DDR 333 from 400, could anyone tell me how much of a difference this actually makes (when playing FPS games Doom3 etc..) ?
Any help would be greatly appreciated as i've been looking through both this forum and the Corsair one and i cant seem to find the answer.
thanks in advance !

Just note that there are combinations of two sticks that will also make the board run in DDR333 mode (see page 2-8 of the manual). For example, using two double-sided sticks in DIMM2 and DIMM3. I've actually managed to get it to work at DDR400 in those two slots, but it's not perfectly stable and overclocking diminishes drastically. Bottom line is the system will work fine when forced to DDR333...as long as you don't expect to overclock the RAM to any significant degree.

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