Checking Paragraph & Character tags

Hi all,
We have a template which contains around 25 paratags and 50 character, we are importing the wordfile from client into the indesign template, the problem over here is client is not allowed to add any unwanted tags into the template.
After pagination we need to check all the tags manually, to avoid unwanted tags gets in.
Is there is any script to check the unwanted tags comes into the template.
I have a list of tags with me for reference.
Please advice.
Shaji

> My question is how can I import these paragraph and character styles from InDesign into Illustrator?
You can't. The text engines are completely incompatible. So much for "Suite".
The best you can hope for is to export EPS
and PDF from InDesign and open each in Illustrator. Probably the EPS will work best for you. Most character formatting will survive the translation, but defines styles and most paragraph formatting won't. Worse, you'll find what was one text frame in InDesign becomes multiple point text items in Illustrator.
I suggest you stick with InDesign. InDesign has competent (but not great) export to raster formats. You'll probably be happier with exported PDFs rasterized and exported from Photoshop. It's a couple more steps for the export, but much less work to recreate much of the content and formatting in a worse (i.e.: Illustrator) program.

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