CIN-Subcontracting Challan

Hi experts,
While making subcontracting challan in J!IF01 system gives me error message as:-
"Excise modvat accounts not defined for 57FC transaction and 5C excise group
Message no. 8I402"
I already maintained accounts for ETT 57FC and suntransaction type but it still gives me this error message.
Please help.
Points will be rewarded for the help.
regards,
rb

first check Subcontracting attratubuts
in Business tran-- subcontracting -- sub contrsc attr
check for ur excise group 5c what is subtransaction type
then go to accounts for ETT 57FC and that subtransaction generally 01 give all the gl accounts
also maintain it for 57NR subtran type
and also check if u have maintain
Specify Excise Accounts per Excise Transaction
57FC          Credit     PLA BED account
57FC          Credit     RG 23 BED account
57FC          Debit     CENVAT clearing account etc
hope this will help
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