Cinema desktop issing

Hi there
Have been working on a projec for a while now
Suddenly tho in my video output the options for Cinema desktop viewing have disapeared. The only option let is NONE or missing firewire.
If I atach a deck the computer will recognise this and give me option to play out to the deck but I dont want to do this... I just want to play back on cinema desktop.
In Audio/video setting the cinema desktop is seen a smissing too.
Does anyone knoe what might be wrong.
Have tried ditching preferences etc.
Final cut 5.1.4 on an intel macbook pro.
Any suggestions thanks in advance .

Cinema Desktop Preview. What is this exactly? What are you looking at? Is it full resolution? Low resolution?
the quality varies with respect to a clip's render status ... it won't be "full quality" unless the timeline render status bar is Dark Green (plays back in full quality), Dark Grey (doesn't need rendering) or Blue-Gray (rendered)
how that preview image is displayed depends on your DCD settings:
DCDP-Main/Full ... this shows your video in its proper aspect, and scaled to fit your display in at least one dimension
DCDP-Preview ... this shows your video in its proper aspect, but at its native scale (1:1), unless that scale is larger than the display in which case it is scaled down to fit
DCDP-Raw ... this shows your video in its raw form without any scaling or aspect ratio corection

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I don't think I am going to do a complete clean install of the entire OS and all my apps, just FCP6. I have copies of FCP X and CS6 installed on another Mac Pro that have been waiting to be played with. I just need to get this project finished. It is a college graduation w/ a RT of 1:54:00 (the horror). While I am play with FCPX and CS6, I'll do a reinstall of FCP6 just because I am curious.
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Have been all over the fora and found many similar problems but none that exactly duplicate my problem.
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Computer Details:
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