Cinema Tools scales down my clip

Summary of the issue
I am putting a 1920x1080p 60fps clip into Cinema Tools to change the frame rate to 24fps using the simple "conform" function. The fps conversion is successful, but the clip is now 960x540.
I have seen this situation reported on the web in various places but I have yet to come upon any response other than "it shouldn't do that". Has that been answered here? Any suggestions?
Details
The original clip is from a GoPro hero3 Black shot at 1080p 60fps converted to ProRes using MPEG Streamclip.
I am using Cinema Tools 4.0.1
Thanks for any help in advance!

Michael and Meg,
So as you suggested, I threw the transcoded Cinema Tools frame-rate-adjusted clip that was displaying dimensions of 960x540 on my drive into FCP and used Command+9...
And lo and behold, 1920x1080. I also noticed that the 1080 version and the 540 version are both 648MB on the drive.
Don't get it, but it sure seems like I have no loss, so I'm not sure I care
Thank you both for your time and patience.
-Scott

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thanks, i am trying to do that. in case I will need your help i will contact u again.
one more doubt.
F8 B (Recurring Charges)38 759 w
what does F8 B 38 759 & w denotes in the above string
what does y & z denote
and what means
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On Wed, 12 Dec 2012 23:29:23 +0530 wrote
    Re: How to scale down number of pages in ps files
    created by abeddie in PostScript Programming - View the full discussion
Remember this is just a sample of what you could do and when your jobs changewhat you do would have to change. The edits are:1) find the %%Page 3 32) change the line above from: U1 to %U13) add the line: 0 792 ypos 72 sub sub neg translate4) Find the line with the smallest y position: F8 (Total Discounts \(Rs.\))38 523 w5) Add this line below: currentpoint /ypos exch def pop %added repeat steps 1-5 for but use for step 1:%%Page 4 4 and step 4: F14 (For BB 1 Unit = 1 KB)38 716 w       old before page 3%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%F8 (Total Discounts \(Rs.\))38 523 w(-386.00)568 523 xg nF2 B (Plan    LO-KAR-LO-BAAT-OTHER)13 775 wGg nF2 B (Phone Number / UserName    0731-2484034)580 775 xGU1%%Page: 3 3%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%     old before page 4%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%F14 (For BB 1 Unit = 1 KB)38 716 wg nF2 B (Plan    RENT-FREE-SECOND-PHONE)13 775 wGg nF2 B (Phone Number / UserName    0731-2484033)580 775 xGU1%%Page: 4 4%%%%%%%%%%%%%
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Cinema Tools Memory Error

Hello Final Cut Gurus!
Okay, so I am using Cinema Tools 3 to reverse telecine a bunch of clips. I am encountering a random error. "There is not enough memory to perform this operation." This error is coming up after the reverse has been running for awhile (say, once the progress bar reaches the middle point).
I have read several posts in regards to situations with file size, and Apple recommends files under 9GB. I only have one clip that is over 9GB, and I get a different error, "This is file is too large for reverse telecine." Okay, understandable. However, what is up with the other error? I can reverse a clip that is 4GB and then a second later I can't reverse 1GB clip because of a "memory" error.
I am doing this on the company's older, revamped G4; 1GHz Processor and 1.75GB RAM. Shouldn't this be enough memory? Would I be better off taking the footage home to my Dual 1GHz G4 with 512MB? Has anyone ever encountered this?
Thanks In Advance!
-The Boards Problem Child-
(AKA Athen)

I'm running into the same problem... my clip is 3.6 GB, running Cinema Tools 3.0.3, on a 1.8 Ghz G5 with 2.5 GB of RAM. I don't even understand how there can be a "not enough memory" error - can't it just use virtual memory?
Has anybody come up with a solution for this?
-Gabriel

Get message "Choose Cinema Tools application"

I tried for the first time to use cinema tools in my Final Cut Pro 7.0.3, but i dident find the application. My application folder in finder its totaly empty. I see some cinematools.fcpres files with NTSC and PAL in the Final Cut folder but its not some install files. Can i in somehow download just cinemma tools and get it in to my Final Cut program or how should il do? I have a work in progress and i need this application to get it done. So when i mark an clip an choose open in cinema tools i get the message "Choose cinema tools application".
Please help me!
Thanks / Gabriel

But i havent the dvd, my question is if i can download Cinema Tools from apples homesite and put it in the folder application? Or if i download cinema tools where should i put it?
I dont knnow why it dident start when i installed it from the begning

Reverse Telecine in Cinema Tools

My 24p fcp project is finished and I need to reverse telecine it to get rid of the ugly interlacing. How do I do this?
I've tried importing the movie into Cinema Tools and it keeps crashing. When I import the whole thing as a single clip (QT Movie), the Reverse Telecine button isn't available.
Also, why can't I import an mpeg-2 clip?
I'm using Cinema Tools 2.2, in case this has something to do with it.
Thanks in advance.

Oh, and Mr. Gilman was saying that there will be interlacing no matter what if it's on DVD or Beta? Why is this?
It's what I was trying to tell you when I said If tape, you need the pulldown anyway. If DVD, the pulldown would be added by the player.
You have to understand where the interlacing is coming from. It is coming from the pulldown inserted to bring the fps from 24 to 30...
Google reveals these Pulldown explanation pages:
http://www.adamwilt.com/24p/#24pRecording
http://home.aol.com/ajaynejr/pulldown.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/24p
http://www.zerocut.com/tech/pulldown.html
http://www.denecke.com/24pinfo.htm
here's a visual representation of 24P with pulldown added to be recorded on a 29.97 tape (this is how all feature films are broadcast on NTSC)
You can see from this image that two frames BC and CD are interlaced - that is, they are made up of two fields taken from different frames. When a DVD has 24fps material on it, the DVD player automatically inserts this pulldown to bring it up to 30 fps so it can be shown on a regular TV.
Now. I believe your problem may stem from an incorrect field order, but first I want to ask - When you created your export of your movie that you fed into DVDSP to make your DVD, did you try importing it into FCP and playing it back on your TV. Did it look okay then?
Patrick

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