Cintiq 24HD as third monitor

Hello,
I am new to the forums, and would like some help.
My set up is as follows:
2010 Mac Pro 2x2.4 Quad-Core Intel Xeon - Running Lion
12GB 1066 MHz DDR3
2TB HD
ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024 MB Graphics
Displays:
27" LED Cinema Display
24" Acer HD Monitor (HDMI - Minidisplay port connector)
Cintiq 24HD (Monitor Tablet)
Now the problem!!
I recently purchased the Cintiq 24HD in hopes it could be used as a third monitor for my studio. I was told it should work directly, and just to plug it into the computer next to the two minidisplay ports and it should work. but when all three are connected, the Cintiq won't recognize. I can only switch between the cintiq and my second monitor by unplugging the Acer HDMI connector, but i want to use all three at once and it won't let me. Supposedly the HD5770 is powerful enough to support these three monitors / tablet.... Could anyone shed any light on the situation? Do I need to buy a seperate adapter? Please help!!! Thanks.

The "AMD Eyefinity Validated Dongles" table doesn't show any active HDMI adapters. I said that was problematic above. I also said I don't know if you could get away with only using a single active adapter. You may just have to do that experiment.
A couple of choices are the following:
DVI-D Single Link Male to HDMI® Female adapter
Passive adapter to plug you HDMI into your DVI port.
Accell B087B-006B UltraAV Mini DisplayPort to DVI-D Single-Link Active Adapter
This is on the Eyefinity table an is a active adapter to connect your Cintiq to your mDP. And looking at the picture of the Accell it is a male DVI plug so I think you also need a DVI coupler (gender changer) since I assume your Cintiq has a male DVI plug.
DVI Coupler (Female to Female)
As I said this is only considered an "experiment" since only one active adapter is being used. At least it would answer the question about whether there's enough power with this setup. If not then you need to figure out how to handle that DVI-to-HDMI connection with some kind of active adapter.
You should be able to see what's going on here. It's sort of a a big "game". You think up one set of requirments. Do a whole lot of google searches to find out what's out there and if you can't find stuff to satisfy that set of requirements, think up some other set of alternatives, and try, try, again.
This was the technique I used and how I originally stumbled upon that DVI/SPDIF converter box. I've since discovered that box is sold by a lot of online sources. The only difference is each slaps a different decal on the top!
Note that given the setup I just descibed, if the single Accell B087B-006B isn't sufficient you may just have to consider that box since it will count as an active adapter for the HDMI connection. It does for me (I use it for my TV), with my other "active" adapter being a (apple) mDP-to-VGA adapter to a 17" VGA monitor. Other mDP is of course connected to my 27" ACD.

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I previously came to you for your expert advice about video cards...I went and upgraded my Radeon 4870 which was running two monitors (Eizo and NEC) to a ATI Radeon 5870 in order to run three monitors (my new Cintiq)
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VGA-1-2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
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1280x960 60.00
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v: height 768 start 771 end 777 total 806 clock 60.00Hz
800x600 (0x75) 40.000MHz
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800x600 (0x76) 36.000MHz
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v: height 600 start 601 end 603 total 625 clock 56.25Hz
[adavis@adavis-T430L ~]$
Then I can enable them:
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[adavis@adavis-T430L ~]$ xrandr --output DP-1-3 --auto --right-of DP-1-2
[adavis@adavis-T430L ~]$
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See this picture of my screen: http://picpaste.com/E6sR62Ah.jpg
What is this kind of Xserver artifact called (that might help my googling)? Any ideas how to fix this?
Last edited by silpertan (2015-02-24 16:58:07)

This usually happens when you edit using a delivery codec (H.264, mpeg2, etc). Are you capturing clips using FCP? Or are you using iMovie? Something else?
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