Cintiqs, Monitors, and Video card problems.

Hi all,
Alright so first of all. I have a 2008 MacPro 3,1 QuadCore.
I'm an animator so I have a duel monitor setup. They're both pretty crappy but run really nicely with my graphics card. I currently have just one ATI Radeon HD 5770 1024 MB video card. It has three outputs, two mini display ports and one DVI-I port. So I always have an extra output.
Alright now that I've set the scene, one MacPro, two monitors. Enter one Cintiq. I finally pulled the trigger on getting a Cintiq. I know! Its awesome, I love it.
It works great I couldn't ask more from the machine.
Just one problem. Even though I have three video outputs, I'm not able to connect all three (2 monitors 1 cinitq) all at once. Its super annoying to have to swith out the cords everytime I want to do anything with the cintiq. I've had 3 monitors plugged in at the same time so I know its not a faulty card.
I would love to be able to have my cinitq and the other 2 monitors all running at once. From what I've read online it looks like I'll have to get a second graphics card that I can connect the cintiq into.
Any recomendations on a new card? is there any way I can avoid paying the extra $150 for a new one?
Another thought on that. Is it even possible to connect two different types of video cards into the same machine? I'm assuming its just by brand so the drivers don't get mixed up?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!
-Dann

No need for a different video card, just some different plumbing.
In order to get all three ports going, you need active adapters on the mini display ports. The Apple part most of us have is passive.
I was having the same problem you discribe except my "CinTiq" was a HD color grading monitor for my post-production work. I got a pair of these: Accell B087B-006B UltraAV Mini DisplayPort to DVI-D Single-Link Active Adapter ATI Certified (Black) and my problems were over.
Your CinTiq may have additional requirements, so check it all out, but I think this'll get the job done.
good luck

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Hi
Video Cards:
These I think I need more help. Going thru these
threads I learned that I should consider the power
supply (overheating problems) and that "AGP G4's
have either a 208w or a 237w Power supply (PSU)"
- I have no idea what I got.
On another thread I read: "as far as I'm aware,
there are only two video cards currently available
retail that support Tiger's core image/video, the
Radeon 9600 and 9800. Unfortunately the 9600 requires
a x4 AGP slot, so that just leaves the 9800. It's a
powerful card but consequently is fairly expensive
and can be noisy due to it's fan."
What is a x4 AGP slot? Do Sawtooths have
this?
I'll be upgrading to Tiger soon. Does this mean I
can't go for the ATI Radeon 9200?
I'd prefer AGP than PCI cards. What are my real
options considering power consumption, OS and
performance?
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