Cisco Wireless Implementation

Hi,
We are in process of deploying cisco wireless infrastucture using WLC 5508 and AP1252. However, just curious to know what are Cisco best practices regarding VLAN design for these components. Can they belong to same VLAN or we need to provision separate VLANS for WLC and APs.
Appreciate your early response.
-> Ripu

500 APs will be fine. The number of clients isn't an issue here, it becomes more of an issue depending on the setup of your wireless infrastructure, you probably wouldn't want 1000s of users on one big flat network.
Hope this helps,
Thanks
Chris

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Need Help on Cisco Wireless Solution!

Hello Netpros!
I have some issues that probably most of wireless implementers faced after implementing a wireless solution. This is an actual feedback from the customer and These issues can be broken down to the following:
1. The wireless Network is slow! (wireless performance)
The customer has Airtight in placed and airtight reports that users are mostly connected to the wireless network on 2 mbps speed. Users also says that their network experience using wireless are slow compared to wired network.
My question is what reports or guides that cisco wireless cotroller system or WLC can shows that proves the network is working as it is intended. Any guides on how to improve the user experience? Any guide from Cisco IT?
During these slowness, what reports from WCS or WLC that can best shows the problems and helps us implementers to mitigate the problem?
2. Baseline Wireless Performance.
When asked about a baseline performance of wireless network, what reports from the WCS or WLC that can show this and what is the acceptable or baseline values?
3. Is there a general guideline on how to use WCS or WLC reporting tools to troubleshoot a wireless performance issue? What reports to see? and how to translate that to say to the customer that the wireless network is under performing?
The main reasons i am asking these questions is because i cannot find any useful documents in cisco that guides the wireless implementers on how to use the reports generated by WCS or WLC when it concerns the performance of the wireless.
Most of the reports WCS generate that relates to the performance normally rounds up the AP performance, channel, noise, but how to translate that to user concerns is another matter.
Perhaps these issues are partly due to user expectations or maybe the wireless setup need to be tweaked or even might requires a spectrum analyzer to pinpoint interferences.
In either cases, I hope netpros can help direct me to good documentation albeit from cisco or other sources that can best outline wireless performance reporting using cisco wcs and wlc.
Background information:
The wireless network setup has one WCS, one location appliance, 4 WLCs and around 150 to 200 APs, most running Local and some running HREAP. Most of the issues concerns the local type APs.
Thanking all in advance!
maldin

Yup,
thats what we told the customer and even showed them the wlc/wcs reports.
Unfortunately, these customers are lacking in wireless knowledge and they want a streamlined, documented steps to generate the reports and also to help them understand in laymen terms.
At the moment we are formulating a holistic approach to the customer to get them understand wireless first, get them to have a policy and enforce and then drill down to management, reporting and troubleshooting.
The thing is, the wireless is always working fine, but sometimes so it happens some bigshots unable to connect to the wireless network in meeting rooms or somewhere and the become jumpy and pointing fingers.
So the IT manager wants to reduces the finger pointing by having the WLC/WCS to produce reports to them.

Wireless Internet Access (Cisco IP NGN or Cisco Wireless Mesh Networkin)??

Dear Cisco Wireless Team
Please educate us on where to start, or the CISCO product we might need to purchase
We are trying to branch out a new Internet wireless access and wireless phone service business in our company, and presently looking for the right Cisco product solution to purchase to enable us offer this service in LAGOS, NIGERIA.
The service will be rendered in Africa, the country NIGERIA, and the city LAGOS.
We would like to mount or install the product in Lagos, Nigeria.
As we are new to this kind of service. We would appreciate if the Cisco wireless team can work with us in pointing or directing on the right product to purchase and what are required. We understand the Cisco Wireless Mesh Networking Solution, Cisco IP Generation Network, Cisco 12416 or 7600 Series Router might be the right products to purchase, but we are not sure on what needed or what are required to meet our service need.
Possibly we would like to offer Wireless Internet Access to unlimited subscribers, and also Wireless or Mobile Phone service to unlimited subscribers in Nigeria.
Anticipating your reply

I suppose Cisco Wireless Mesh Networking would be a good choice.The Cisco mesh architecture makes it easy to scale coverage as capacity needs dictate, including increasing access point density; adding wired connections, controllers, and radios; and using dual high-powered, high-sensitive radios and a selection of high-gain antennas.Refer the document for IP NGN in the following URL http://www.cisco.com/en/US/netsol/ns537/networking_solutions_solution_category.html

Cisco wireless and Apple Mac woes

Hello all,
I've been working with Cisco wireless and WLC's for a couple of years now but the recent onslaught of Apple Mac's is giving me heart burn. I've seen this at numerous sites now and need to throw it to eht community for guidance.
Basically we have had a number of instances where the Macs just fall off the wifi. Sometimes it's when they wake from sleep and other times when roaming between AP's (1131s with same SSID's). Our standard install is WPA2 and per ap local authentication. PC's work fine and never an issue.
We have completed a survey with a spectrum analyser and no RF interefence is present nor errors on the radio interface.
Questions:
- Is there a preferred Cisco config/setup for Mac's to work reliably? I've heard loads of rumors but nothing concrete and nor can I find anything specific.
- Should I be setting up WDS in case there is an authenticating issue.
- For those who are Mac gurus and happen to be reading. What Mac options we should look at?
This has all come to a head because the clients IT company who recommended the Macs (different from us doing the network infrastructure) are insisting that the problem is Cisco incompatibility and that we should rip out the Cisco kit and install airports (what tha!!!).
Thanks in advance for any pointers.
For those who like a config here it is .... Vanilla stuff really
Building configuration...
Current configuration : 2236 bytes
version 12.4
no service pad
service timestamps debug datetime msec
service timestamps log datetime msec
service password-encryption
hostname AP4
no logging console
enable secret xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
no aaa new-model
dot11 syslog
dot11 ssid Home
   vlan 1
   authentication open
   authentication key-management wpa
   guest-mode
   mbssid guest-mode
   wpa-psk ascii xxxxxxxxxxxx
dot11 ssid avnet
   vlan 2
   authentication open
   authentication key-management wpa
   mbssid guest-mode
   wpa-psk ascii xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
username abcd password 1234
bridge irb
interface Dot11Radio0
no ip address
no ip route-cache
encryption vlan 1 mode ciphers tkip
encryption vlan 2 mode ciphers tkip
ssid Home
mbssid
speed basic-1.0 basic-2.0 5.5 11.0 6.0 9.0 12.0 18.0 24.0 36.0 48.0 54.0
channel 2412
station-role root
interface Dot11Radio0.1
encapsulation dot1Q 1 native
no ip route-cache
bridge-group 1
bridge-group 1 subscriber-loop-control
bridge-group 1 block-unknown-source
no bridge-group 1 source-learning
no bridge-group 1 unicast-flooding
bridge-group 1 spanning-disabled
interface Dot11Radio0.2
encapsulation dot1Q 2
no ip route-cache
bridge-group 2
bridge-group 2 subscriber-loop-control
bridge-group 2 block-unknown-source
no bridge-group 2 source-learning
no bridge-group 2 unicast-flooding
bridge-group 2 spanning-disabled
interface FastEthernet0
no ip address
no ip route-cache
duplex auto
speed auto
hold-queue 80 in
interface FastEthernet0.1
encapsulation dot1Q 1 native
no ip route-cache
bridge-group 1
no bridge-group 1 source-learning
bridge-group 1 spanning-disabled
interface FastEthernet0.2
encapsulation dot1Q 2
no ip route-cache
bridge-group 2
no bridge-group 2 source-learning
bridge-group 2 spanning-disabled
interface BVI1
ip address 192.168.10.54 255.255.255.0
no ip route-cache
ip default-gateway 192.168.10.1
no ip http server
no ip http secure-server
bridge 1 route ip
line con 0
line vty 0 4
login local
end

Yeah!! even i have come across multiple issue with MAC and Cisco.. these are the below settings which i normally do on the cisco gears and most of the times this solved the issue..
on the IOS AP disable Aironet Extentions and set the poer local and ofdm to max
no dot11 extension aironet
power local cck max
power local ofdm max
end
On the WLC, disable Aironet IE..
lemme know if this answered your question..
Regards
Surendra
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I have a Cisco wireless router. Can I buy an Airport Express plug in booster for a distant part of my house or do I need an Airport Extreme base station instead to make the Airport Express plug in booster work?

Can I buy an Airport Express plug-in wifi signal booster to connect to a Cisco wireless router, or do I have to buy an Airport Extreme base station to make the Airport Express plug-in work?

You would need either an AirPort Extreme or an AirPort Express connected to the Cisco router, with a permanent Ethernet cable connection.
Configure the Extreme or Express that is connected to the Cisco router to "create a wireless network".
Then, you could add an AirPort Express to "extend a wireless network" to provide more wireless coverage for the network that the Extreme or Express would be creating.
Remember that the Express can only "extend" the quality of signal that it receives, so it must be located where it can receive a strong signal from the "main" AirPort.
If you don't need the Cisco wireless signal, you could turn it off.....or use that network for guests or something similar.
The bottom line here......you always need two Apple routers if you want to extend the network wirelessly.

MacBook Pro will not connect to Cisco Wireless Network

I have just bought a brand new MacBook Pro, running Leopard (OSX 10.5.1) and I just cannot get it to connect to the Wireless Network at my workplace.
The MBP connects to wireless network and authenticates just fine, but will not obtain an IP address from the DHCP server.
The wireless network consists of 16 Cisco Aironet 1200 Access Points controlled by a Cisco Wireless Network Controller. It does not broadcast its SSID and is WEP 128-bit hex protected.
Changing the network from WEP to WPA is out of the question for me as this is under the control of my customers IT Department and they do not have any problems with their PCs connecting to the network. It appears to be an Apple issue.
For reference, my old Vaio PC, my Nokia N95 and my iPod Touch ALL connect to the same wireless network without any problems whatsoever, first time, every time!
If I boot into Windows XP from my Boot Camp partition, XP can connect wirelessly to the network without any problems, so it is not MacBook hardware related...
It has to be a bug in Mac OSX... doesn't it?!?
Things I have already tried (following suggestions on many forums):
* Switching Airport off/on
* Deleting various network-related Plist files and rebooting
* Manually assigning an IP Address (not really permitted but doesn't work anyway!)
* Disabling all network adaptors except Airport
AP Grapher shows that the MBP is connected to the wireless network, at good strength, and packets are being sent and received, but Internet Access is not possible as no IP Address has been assigned. Instead, my MBP shows a 169.* IP Address (self-assigned). It should be a 10.1.255.* address.
Can anybody please help? Thank you.

i posted this same reply elsewhere because it worked for me for my Buffalo wireless router: try manually setting your IP address instead of relying on DHCP, which sometimes (I don't know why) doesn't work well with Macs. It's a good get around. I am a happy Mac user but nothing is perfect on earth, and when the Mac gives problems, it does give a lot of frustration. Macs are not as easy to troubleshoot as Win because a Mac is built to be user friendly(and it works most of the time), meaning a lot of the background computing stuff is hidden away from users to avoid user accidentally upsetting some settings.
Unfortunately, the highly automated troubleshooting wizards provided by OS X are not perfect so when these software wizards fail to resolve the problem, like my Network Diagnostics, I have to spend more time tinkering around. There's "Terminal" of course but then most of us, especially PC converts to Macs, don't know how to use it.
You should also try updating your MBP, see if there are any new updates being released.

Warning page on Cisco Wireless Lan Controller for guest access

Hi,
We have an Cisco wireless LAN controller 4400 in our organization, and lots of guest using our Wi-Fi network.
I would like to configure a warning and terms and condition page when guest using first time our network.
Can you please let me know is that possible without adding external web server and how to configure.
Many Thanks in Advance
Amit Sharma

Hi Amit,
Hope you are doing great!!
the below link will help you in getting the issue resolved!!
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6366/products_configuration_example09186a00809bdb5f.shtml
Please dont forget to rate the usefull posts!!
Regards
Surendra

Cisco Wireless AP Report.

I would like to develop a report package for Cisco Wireless device using the SNMP (MIB Objects) access. Can anyone suggest me what are all kind of report i can produce ..?
Like, CPU Usage, Memory and Buffer Usage, Process utilization and Conne cted Nodes. etc.,
Does this device suppor to get all kind of information from MIBs?.
Thanks,
Moorthy,

You can get the Aironet MIBs from: http://www.cisco.com/public/sw-center/sw-wireless.shtml but will have to look at the MIB definitions to find out which ones to use. There's no short cut.

Is it possible to use a Linksys By Cisco Wireless-G Internet Home Monitoring Camera with Labview

I was wondering if it is possible to use a 'Linksys By Cisco Wireless-G Internet Home Monitoring Camera' with Labview
http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=53PX&SearchType=1&SearchTerms=network+cameras&PageMod...
I wan't to be able to get the raw data from the camera and analyse it.
Message Edited by Jam.hall on 03-25-2009 09:03 AM
Solved!
Go to Solution.

Hi Jam.Hall
I am somewhat hesitant to say you will be able to use this camera with LabVIEW. It all depends on what functionality you are wanting to utilise on the camera, and how much video you want to analyze.
- If you want to use the wireless functionality, I am concered that the on board web server will compress and embed the video stream. I do not beleive this is something we can access in LabVIEW.
- If you wish to use the ethernet connection, if it is Gigabit Ethernet, then you should be able to use our IMAQ for GigE driver to bring in the feed, but looking at the specs for the camera, I'm not sure that this is an option.
- My other suggestion might be to utilise the record video stream function that the camera has. Depending on the format of the video file, you may be able to read in the recorded file and analyse it in LabVIEW.
If you could explain the purpose of your application, and what you would like to achieve with the system, there may be more suitable products that you can use.
Kind regards,
Sheela Sujeeun
Applications Engineer
National Instruments UK

More problems w/Apple's Wireless implementation

Just tried using the Washington State Ferry's wireless implementation via Mobilisa. It too has problems with the Mac OS. They had workarounds, which seemed to be the turning off of the Mac firewall, which did work for me.
What is the deal here? Why does Apples' implementation of the "standard" way of connecting to wireless seem to be more problematic than the Windows method?
As a "switcher" that is using my MacBook to run both Windows and OSX it's really not very thrilling that I'm spending way too much energy dealing with connectivity issues.
Other than that, I love the machine. Works very well, screen is superb. Keyboard wonderful.

I guess I'm not being clear. Why would I want to have to turn off my firewall on my MB to connect to an unprotected accesspoint? That's what the Mobius people who run the Ferry access point told me to do, and low and behold, that did 'fix' the problem. Though I hardly think that's a fix. I don't have to do that on my Windows machine. So no, I give that 'point' to Windows. It really doesnt' matter to me or the other millions of computer users that aren't technical. I figure that most Mac users would not have figured out how to access the hidden web pages at this ferry terminal to figure out the "fix' that they needed. That's not adding to "ease of use". Does that help clarify? It's no big deal, but it's a deal nevertheless. I'm now assuming that I will have a problem at almost every wireless access point with my Mac. Hope that I'm wrong!

Cisco wireless control system

we are using cisco wireless control system i need block some MAC address or devices how can i do it

Hi,
Yes you can block the specific client using MAC Address filtering option in WCS
This option is avialbe in Configure> Security >MAC Filtering
here you can create new template as per your requirement
Go through below link for detail knowledge.
http://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/wireless/wcs/7-0/configuration/guide/WCS70cg/7_0temp.html#wp1095263

Cisco Wireless Location Appliance

dear
i have WCS with 500 ap License
i need to have Cisco Wireless Location Appliance what lisens i need for 500 ap
please explain to me that

Hi Ahmed,
This is the upgrade License SKU for upgrading WCS to WCS Location;
WCS-LOC-UPG-K9
Supports deployment of Cisco WCS on a single server only.
For customers upgrading from their existing Cisco WCS base licenses to equivalent Cisco WCS location licenses running Cisco WCS Software Release 4.1 or later.
Available as Cisco WCS location in increments of 50, 100, or 500 lightweight access points.
Customers currently using this license with Cisco WCS Software Release 4.0 are encouraged to upgrade to Cisco WCS Software Release 4.1, but they are not required to do so.
Order the Correct Cisco WCS SKUs
The process to order Cisco WCS SKUs for WCS-STANDARD-K9, WCS-LOC-UPG-K9, WCS-WLSE-UPG-K9 and WCS-ENT-K9 is presented below. To request help with ordering, please contact Cisco Customer Service: http://www.cisco.com/go/customerservice.
1. Login to the Cisco Ordering Tool.
2. Enter the family SKU of WCS-STANDARD-K9 or WCS-LOC-UPG-K9 or WCS-WLSE-UPG-K9 or WCS-ENT-K9 into "Enter Product" in the Ordering Tool and then press "Enter."
3. The family SKU will display in the ordering area. (Figure 6).
4. Select the "Line" for the family SKU
5. Once you have been taken to the configuration screen, select one of these options from the left side (Figure 7):
For WCS-STANDARD-K9 select one of the sub-SKUs based on the following:
Base: WCS Standard AP Base Option
Location: WCS Standard AP Location Option
For WCS-WLSE-UPG-K9 select one of the sub-SKUs based on the following:
Base: WLSE to WCS AP Base Upgrade Option
Location: WLSE to WCS AP Location Upgrade Option
**For WCS-LOC-UPG-K9 select the sub-SKU:
**WCS AP Location Upgrade Option
For WCS-ENT-K9 select the sub-SKU:
WCS Enterprise AP Location Option
For the WCS-STANDARD-K9 or **WCS-LOC-UPG-K9 SKU families, customers are prompted to order the optional CD (WCS-CD-K9), for a nominal charge, during the ordering process. The WCS-CD-K9 contains one software image of Cisco WCS Software Release 4.1 on a CD for Windows and Linux. This CD is shipped by U.S. mail to the purchaser's address. The optional CD is not available for WCS-WLSE-UPG-K9 because this SKU family already ships in CD format.
6. The right side of the screen will display the licenses available (Figure 7). The price for each SKU is displayed in the Ordering Tool.
7. Each license is orderable in a quantity of one (1) for the quantity blocks specified. To add multiple quantities of license blocks, you must go back to the main screen and order additional family SKUs and then select the sub-SKU option and license quantity block required. Repeat this process as needed, until the correct quantity of license blocks for your sub-SKU have been ordered.
From this good doc;
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6305/pro ducts_data_sheet0900aecd804b4646.html
Hope this helps!
Rob

Cisco Wireless Control System need wireless Lan Controller ?

Cisco Wireless Control System need wireless Lan Controller , for Rogue detection

Hi Joao,
The WCS is used in conjuntion with the WLC (Wireless Lan Controller) for Rogue Detection. It is not a must for this function but more of an add-on :)
The Cisco WCS is an optional network component that works in conjunction with Cisco Aironet Lightweight Access Points, Cisco wireless LAN controllers and the Cisco Wireless Location Appliance.
From this doc;
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6305/index.html
Overview of WCS
The Cisco Wireless Control System (WCS) is a Cisco Unified Wireless Network Solution management tool that adds to the capabilities of the web user interface and command line interface (CLI), moving from individual controllers to a network of controllers. WCS includes the same configuration, performance monitoring, security, fault management, and accounting options used at the controller level and adds a graphical view of multiple controllers and managed access points.
WCS runs on Windows 2003 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES 4.0 and AS 4.0 servers. On both Windows and Linux, WCS can run as a normal application or as a service, which runs continuously and resumes running after a reboot.
The WCS user interface enables operators to control all permitted Cisco Unified Wireless Network Solution configuration, monitoring, and control functions through Internet Explorer 6.0 or later. Operator permissions are defined by the administrator using the WCS user interface Administration menu, which enables the administrator to manage user accounts and schedule periodic maintenance tasks.
WCS simplifies controller configuration and monitoring while reducing data entry errors with the Cisco Unified Wireless Network Controller autodiscovery algorithm. WCS uses the industry-standard SNMP protocol to communicate with the controllers.
From this good doc;
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/ps6305/products_configuration_guide_chapter09186a00806b7270.html#wp1131195
Detect and Locate Rogue Access Points
From this WCS doc;
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk722/tk809/technologies_tech_note09186a00806f070a.shtml#new5
Rogue Detection under Unified Wireless Networks
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk722/tk809/technologies_white_paper09186a0080722d8c.shtml
Hope this helps!
Rob

Cisco Wireless AP

Hi
I have a cisco wireless AP AIR-LAP1242G-E-K9
When I plug the network cable into the back this lights come on and change colour.
Does anyone know what the lights mean when they change colour?
Thanks
Regards

Hi Jayesh,
Color change can be due to many reasons
Status LED indicates operating state, association status, error/warning condition, boot sequence, and maintenance status.
Ethernet LED indicates status of activity over the Ethernet.
Radio LED indicates status of activity over the radio.
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/wireless/access_point/1240/installation/guide/124h_c4.html
Regards
NikhiL

Cisco wireless problem

Hello I have Cisco wireless router 800 series the wireless module work such as must if I files of pc1 to pc2 do not send then become the wireless module reboot each time if I want files or move which can me help please copy

I actually understand a bit of dutch but writing is much harder for me. I hope google translator will translate my words correctly :-)
It's not normal that your router reboots everytime you transfer a file. Can you tell us what version of IOS you are running ? What is the exact model of your router ?
And can you also maybe collect the console output of the router when it reboots like that ?
thanks,
Nicolas

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