Clarification on these comments on SDN about NUMBER RANGES

Hi,
In a previous discussion here, it was argued that the u201CNumber Range is not generated for every process. Number Range is generated say in case of sales orderu201D
I read that the Number range is to basically improve performance by assigning those numbers from a user assigned range.
1. What are these user assinged range numbers(Number ranges) replacing?
2. Or, are we saying that if you have e.g Sales Orders, then the sale order NUMBERs, are what we are now assigning from the u201CNumber Rangeu201D we define? i.e What type of transactions required a number range?
3. If #2 is a true statement, then it is even becoming more confusing. Isnu2019t the Sales Order Numbers coming from the transactional system to BI? ..and if we recreate these numbers in BI wonu2019t it lead to inconsistencies between the source data and BI data?
4. I checked the talbe NRIV and found a column for u201CObject Namesu201D and u201CSub Object valueu201D, what do those represent?
5. What is the difference between the numbers in NRIV and what you assigned? And where do you assign the Number Ranges, if you need to create your own?
6. I first heard of Number Range while reviewing u201CLine Items Dimensionsu201D but I still do not see how Number Ranges relate to Line Item dimension. Any help?
Thanks

Hi Arun
thanks. I will wait a bit and see if someone will address directly the listed questions but I need a clarification on these points you made:
i. I think something is missing in this statement making it tough to follow (see the underlined.. lg?)
".. Here there might be a lg in terms of finding which DIM IDs already exist and what was the last number range used..."
ii. "... If you buffer the same - then you end up with say 1000 DIMIDS always for the load program to pull up from ..."
When you said "if you buffer" you meant if you assign a number range, right?
Does "buffering" mean you are providing a range of numbers for the Data Manager to use in place of DIM IDs?
How do do you do that? in BI or on R3?
I am reading a document which talks about SNRO and VOV8 but all these transactions are for R3 and not BI. Where are you doing the buffering you are referring to?
iii. When you said "...User defined number range is more for transaction data ....Start Sales orders from 1200 to 2000 where the system will use an incremental numbering for the sales order generation..."
Aren't the Sales Order Numbers generated in R3 and extracted to BI?
Can you overwrite transaction in R3 which includes Sales Order Numbers with new Numbers you are buffering in BI? Won't that lead to mismatch of information in BI and that of R3?
Thanks

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I tried Tcode OONR,But still i need clarification on this.
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Use Tcode OONR
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     Since the matchcode function is available for the selection of objects,
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         valid for all plan versions).
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         for all plan versions):
         -   $$$$ (plan version and object type are generic)
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what is Number range object and what is the purpose of this.?
thanks in advance ...

Hi,
1) Goto Tcode SNRO
2) select ur concerned OBJECT there.
3) Click on Number Ranges Push Button.
4) then click on Display Interval Button over there.
Document:
A number range must be assigned to each document type in the SAP System. Via the document types, you distinguish the postings according to the different business transactions, for example customer payment, vendor credit memo, and so on. To store documents separately according to document types, you must assign a separate number range to each document type, for example to invoices or to credit memos.
In the following activities:
You define your document number ranges.
You can determine which intervals of document number ranges are to be copied from one company code into another.
You can determine which intervals of document number ranges are to be copied from one fiscal year into another.
Define Document Number Ranges
In this IMG activity you create number ranges for documents. For each number range you specify (among other things):
a number interval from which document numbers are selected
the type of number assignment (internal or external)
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You can use one number range for several document types. This means you can differentiate documents by document type but combine them again for filing the original documents, provided you store your original documents under the EDP document number.
Note
The type of number assignment is of special importance. For each document type you should check whether a separate number range must be used and which type of number assignment is most appropriate.
One example of a case where external number assignment would be suitable is when you transfer documents into your SAP system from a non-SAP system. The numbers must be unique. The number range is not displayed with external numbers. You must therefore ensure that you do not skip any numbers when entering numbers manually (for organizational reasons).
You should use internal number assignment if the original documents do not have a unique document number. This is the case, for example, with vendor invoices.
Number ranges for documents are company code-dependent. You must therefore create your number ranges for each company code in which the document type is used, namely with the same number range key.
The number intervals must not overlap. If you use year-dependent number ranges, you can specify the same interval with the same key several times for different to- fiscal years (the limit up to which a number range is still valid). If you want to define number ranges which are independent of the to-fiscal year, enter 9999 in the to- fiscal year field.
Caution
For sample documents, use a number range with key X2, for recurring entry documents with key X1. These keys may not be used for other number ranges.
Recommendation
Store your original documents (paper documents) under the EDP number of the SAP System. You should write the EDP document number on the original document. In this way, the original document for a business transaction can be found at any time.
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Intervals which are copied
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Company code from which you copy (source company code)
Company code(s) into which you copy (target company code(s))
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Fiscal year from which you copy (source fiscal year)
Fiscal year into which you copy (target fiscal year)
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/2a/fa02e3493111d182b70000e829fbfe/frameset.htm
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Hi SRM Gurus,
Can any one please explain me more precisely about number ranges in SRM & MM.
For classical scenario, we will define number ranges for PO & other purchasing documents in SRM as internal number ranges and in MM as external number ranges.
But in Classical scenario we will create POs (or other Purchasing Documents) in backend system. Suppose If it is to be replicated to SRM as per business need, then how system works. Because we defined in SRM PO number range as internal number range and in backend system as external number range.
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I am confused. I'll appreciate if any one explains me with step by step or with examples for Classic and Extended classical scenarios
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Please find my responses in bold below:
For classical scenario, we will define number ranges for PO & other purchasing documents in SRM as internal number ranges and in MM as external number ranges.
Sundeep: In Classic Scenario, you do not define number ranges for PO internally in SPRO. You would only define number ranges for shopping carts, Confirmation and Invoices if required. Please see description of classic and extended classic scenario below.
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So, basically in classic scenario, you create only a Shopping cart (Internal Number Range) and all follow on documents such as PR, PO etc are created as external number ranges in ECC, which are a result of a shopping cart from SRM having an internal number range locally.
But in Classical scenario we will create POs (or other Purchasing Documents) in backend system. Suppose If it is to be replicated to SRM as per business need, then how system works. Because we defined in SRM PO number range as internal number range and in backend system as external number range.
Sundeep: This scenario is not possible. In classic scenario you cannot replicate the PO back to the SRM system. Such a scenario is usually accomodated by an Extended Classic Scenario.
Again in Extended Classical scenario, for MRP materials PR or Reservation will be created in backend system with internal number range. But in Plan-Driven scenario they will be replicate to SRM. In this case how we have to choose number ranges.
Sundeep: In a Plan driven procurement the PR is created in SRM as a shopping cart with internal number range. (PR = Shopping cart in SRM). No reservations are created locally in SRM from a PDP. Reservation are only possible in a Classic scenario from SRM -> R/3.
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· The extended classic scenario
The shopping cart is created in SAP Enterprise Buyer. The purchase order and follow-on documents are also created there and then replicated to the backend system. The purchase order in SAP Enterprise Buyer is the leading purchase order and cannot be changed in the backend system. Goods receipts and invoices can be pre-entered in SAP Enterprise Buyer or entered directly in the backend system. With SAP Supplier Self-Services, you have partial supplier involvement for all your operational procurement scenarios. In these scenarios, you have supplier involvement for the purchase order and the purchase order response.
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Pls assign points for usefull answers !!
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