Classic and USB 1.1

Is there any point me getting a classic if I have an eMac, which has USB 1.1 and I don't think can be upgraded to 2.0? Would it still update / charge but just a lot more slowly?
Not sure i can justify getting a new Mac just to get a new iPod...

I can not think of any addition issues. As long as your Mac can support whatever minimum version is needed to run the "Classic" iPod you should be all set. The Apple store claims iTunes 7.4 is required, but so far no v7.4 has made an appearance. I think your eMac would be able to handle the new iTunes just fine as long as the new iTunes doesn't require Tiger. Are you still using Panther? If so are you really still using 10.3.7? If so, why not at least upgrade to 10.3.9?
As to the power adapter, it should work fine. While I can not speak for the new "Classic" models, the 5th generation Video iPods could still charge off Firewire connections so older Firewire iPod chargers worked fine with the 5th generation iPods. Assuming nothing has changed with the Classic models, you should still be able to charge off an old iPod charger, unless they disconnected those pins and the associated circuits inside the iPod for Firewire power input.
Patrick

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Tiger/Classic and USB problems

I have two instances where a USB device that worked in Panther/Classic will not work in Tiger/Classic.
One is StylusRIP from Epson that I use to print Postscript files with my Stylus 3000. Worked fine in Panther/Classic, since I upgraded to Tiger the printer is not recognized. The printer works in OSX using the non-Postscript driver, so I know that basic connectivty (cables, ports, etc.) is OK.
The other is a RoboLab USB infrared transmitter. Same scenario.
While troubleshooting the transmitter, I tried booting into OS9 (on my G4) and the connection was made. It worked fine. I tried the same thing with StylusRip, and it too worked fine, the printer was recognized. I can, as a workaround, output PS files or press-ready PDFs (since I won't be able to use any of my designs apps in Classic), reboot in 9 and print, but I'd rather find out how to fix the problem.
Can anyone tell me what could be different about the way Tiger handles USB that could affect the interoperability with devices/software that require Classic? I did find one post that recommended resetting the PRAM, so I will try that. Any other recommendations are welcome.

Thanks for your reply. Yes, I am running 9.2.2. The only thing that changed was the update to Tiger. I have called ESPON, and they refer me to Adobe because they licensed the RIP from Adobe. I've not had any success with that yet. The last update of RIP does not support the Stylus 3000 printer, and I don't think it's native anyway. The set-up I was using was a "non-supported workaround", so I may just be out of luck. Which is a pain, because the printer still has some miles on it. I may try to see if I can use an older Mac running 9.2.2 as a print server.
Robolab has an OSX native update out, so we will get that.
What I found curious was that both pieces of software, or the USB connectivity required by both, was broken by Tiger.

USB cable compatibility between Classic and 5th Generation

Does anyone know if the Classic and 5th generation can use the same USB cable and charge either one successfully. Or, asked another way, can the Classic use the same portable charger as the 5th Generation?

A 5th gen iPod is not a Classic. See this link for assistance in identifying your iPod:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1353
If what you have is truly a 5th gen, you should start a new thread with an appropriately descriptive title in the 5th gen iPod section:
http://discussions.apple.com/forum.jspa?forumID=807
Best of luck.

IPod Classic and the new software upgrade

I've had my 80GB iPod Classic since December. I loaded it up with all my music and hadn't plugged it back into my computer until a couple days ago. I got a notice to update my iPod software so I did and it came back that it couldn't because there was an unknown error. Not only that but after I ejected it from there I wasn't able to restore it automatically) all my music was gone. A couple days have past since then and I've not gotten around to restoring it, which it suggested. It told me it would be reappear in the iTunes window when it was done. Since then it hasn't shown up and I've been prompted twice to restore. Has anyone else had this problem?? Can someone help me out?? It's now nothing but a blackish-grey screen with the apple icon. It's not even registering on my computer......

I've tried all afternoon to get it fixed and I think I finally found the answer. To all of those 80GB iPod owners having problems with the reset please try this, it worked for me!
iPod Classic keeps Continuously resetting at Apple Logo
Posted: Mar 6, 2008 1:45 PM Reply Email
Okay, I have sent in my iPod Classic, and let me just say its AWESOME! Okay first I found that other people were having a problem with the NEWEST iPod Continuously resetting at Apple Logo. There is a 10 step process in getting the help you need, follow these instructions:
*I got these from Jimmy_Dean, thanks bud...*
10 Simple Steps To Fix Your iPod That Is Stuck In A Continuous Reset Loop:
1) While the iPod was resetting itself over and over (continuously resetting itself), press the Play/Pause button and the center select button simultaneously, for about 5 seconds, and it will display that it is now in disk mode.
2) Start up iTunes on your computer and then connect the iPod to your computer with the USB cable.
3) Click on the iPod in the left pane, select "Restore" to restore it to its original blank state. Follow the prompts to continue.
4) When the computer completes the Restore update, and it displays a message saying that the iPod will disappear and reappear in iTunes in a minute, immediately disconnect the iPod (unplug it from your USB cable).
5) On the iPod, you should see the main menu, in a few seconds. Pick a couple of settings to update for example the English language, and Eastern Time Zone (New York or Washington, DC), etc.
6) Press and hold the Play/Pause button to power the iPod off.
7) Re-connect the iPod to your comptuer with the USB cable.
8) Start syncing using iTunes, as normal.
9) All should be well.
10) Remember to always click on Eject in iTunes, and waiting for visual confirmation, before disconnecting the iPod.
If these do not work, please go to:
https://selfsolve.apple.com/GetWarranty.do
This site brings you to a step by step process in getting your iPod fixed. Its very hands on, and the day I requested a repair or a replacement, they sent me a box. I got it in less that 1 day! Mind you that was the 4th of March when I requested the box. I got it the 5th of March, and I sent it in that same day with NO CHARGE! Apple pays for it if you have the warranty, if your iPod is in the first 180 days of purchase (they can tell), everything is free unless its obvious that you dropped it or something like that. Anyways, I got an email toay (March 6th), that says that they have recieved the product and are diagnosing it. Thats really fast, mind you! Well, I am now waiting for that, and then they will let me know if they can fix it or have to replace it. In that case, I will NOT BE CHARGE A PENNY for the services, they told me the process is really fast and I will get my iPod back in a few weeks at most.
So a total of 2 weeks for everything at most FOR FREE, thats a deal!
I live in a city that DOESNT have an Apple store in it (Colorado Springs, Colorado) and I am on tour ALL the time with bands, and I am just lucky everything is coming together fast and smooth!
If your city has an Apple store, you can check here:
http://www.apple.com/retail/
You can bring it to them and they will tell you if they have to replace it or fix it, if you can get a NEW iPod for free TAKE IT there and then. You will save time and effort!
Let me know how this helped on this blog!!!
Thanks everyone,
Matt (Zero)
-Rise Records
-Victory Records
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Possible iPod Classic and Oracle Netbeans/Java Issue

I recently lost all the music from my iPod Classic and was unable to restore from iTunes or reset to factory defaults. The iPod showed a large amount of disk usage but no music, video, photos, etc. and it took forever to connect to my Windows USB port. After battling this and trying tons of ideas on the net, the Apple Store had to reformat the device from a Mac and reset the drive. Today I just had the same issue and I think the issue was caused by Oracle Netbeans and/or Java being loaded to my desktop. Both times I had this issue was after downloading Oracle NetBeans for a development tool. Has anyone else seen this issue?

1. How likely is it that Apple will fix this issue with future firmware releases?
No-one here could even hazard a guess. We're just users like yourself. Do Philips claim this DVD player is compatible? Isn't it the responsibility of the makers of the DVD player to ensure it works with the Classic?
2. Are other 3rd party devices (i.e. Docks, Automobiles, etc.) affected by this firmware release?
Yes. Almost all older 3rd party accessories don't work with the Classic. There have been many posts about such issues both here and other iPod forums.
3. Is there any way to go back to firmware release 1.0.2? I know backing off firmware releases is possible with the iPhone.
This may be of help but you have to have the previous version still on your computer.
Remove the latest update from the iTunes/iPod updates folder.
In Windows XP but I think it's found in "Documents and Settings\User Name\Application Data\Apple Computer\iTunes\iPod Software Updates."
Then prevent iTunes from checking the internet for a new update (preferences/general and remove the check mark from "check for updates automatically), then click restore. Or simply disconnect your modem from the computer.
Then restore the iPod.
You should then be asked if you want to use the previous version of the iPod software.

3rd Gen Ipod Classic - will USB charge work or only firewall?

I just inherited a 3rd Gen Classic Ipod. I don't have capability to charge with firewall - will USB charging work and if not, how to I charge it?

You need the same kind of charger as you returned, but instead of the USB one, you need the firewire one. Apple sells these.
The problem with not having a firewire port on your computer is that if the iPod is connected via USB, it won't charge whist it's transferring songs. This is a very large drain on the iPod's battery and you'll find that the battery runs out in the middle of the transfer (especially if it's a lot of songs you're transferring).
There used to be a cable that had both firewire and USB plugs on it so you could plug the firewire end into the wall charger and the usb end into your computer and so get power to the iPod whilst transferring data.
I haven't seen one of these cables for a while now, but Google might turn something up.
You could of course transfer very small amounts of songs from iTunes to iPod before the battery runs out, then re-charge via the wall charger, but this isn't an ideal solution.
EDIT.
Here you go, this is the type of cable I mean.
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=205878745&listingid=15805841&dcaid=179 02

Do you have trouble with iPod Classic and Ford's SYNC?

Anyone have trouble with Ford SYNC recognizing iPod Classic? When I first bought my Lincoln my iPod Classic worked perfectly--just like it should with Ford SYNC. But a few months ago, when I plug in the iPod using a USB cable I get the message on Ford Sync that says, "incompatible device". At first I thought it was a ford problem so I began testing using a 2010 Buick and a 2010 Lincoln Navigator. My iPod classic doesn't work in either. However, a iPod nano works perfectly in either car. Also if I put some of my music on a flash drive it works fine in the Lincoln. So, I'm convinced that the problem is some type of update that occurred to my iPod or to iTunes.
I have tried several iPod Classics and several USB cables so it is definitely aiPod Classic software problem. By the way, my iPod Classics work fine by themselves--just not through Ford's SYNC.
I'm pretty lost as to possible solutions.
Thanks,

I have done some experimenting and testing with my old Classic iPod that uses operating system 3.1.1. I don't think this operating system has changed. However, later generation iPods such as nano, shuffle that use a different operating system seem to work absolutely perfectly in my 2010 Lincoln Navigator, especially the ones without a hard drive (i.e. flash drive). My conclusion is that the Ford SYNC updates have somehow not been backward compatible with the older operating system. I know this can be attributed to Apple for part of the problem but I suspect that Ford somehow did not do enough testing with the older iPod operating systems. Turns out there are probably 7 or more operating systems on iPods and while you would assume that "backward compatibility" is a no-brainer, that seems not to be the case with second party vendors such as Ford SYNC. Personally, I have given up trying to solve this problem and have gone to flash drive and a "line in" option. My old Classic iPod works exceptionally well, plus I have a spare so I can probably use these thing till "H freezes over". Being a older retired American these things may actually last a life time!

Connecting 6720 Classic via USB crash PC USB devic...

When connecting 6720 Classic via USB cable to my Acer laptop all USB ports on laptop seize to work and Windows display a message that the USB device has malfunctioned. Eventually the PC is permanently stucked and only way to proceed is reset laptop on power button and prior to that remove the laptop charger to entirely power it off and let it reboot on battery. Harddisk controller is permanently indicating with a green light but harddisk is not spinning. When this happens the Nokia phone does not prompt for USB usage (connection type) and is also hanging in application execution for a while. I would like to be able to configure the phone not to charge via USB, but have not found a way to do that. I believe that the charging via USB is creating a low level hw driver and power surge problem in my laptop. Problem is not consistent but happens from time to time. When connecting the normal 230 VAC charger to Nokia device so the Nokia device is charging when connecting to laptop via USB the problem does not occur. In this situation the Nokia device will not try to charge from USB connection.
Any possibility to disable the charging over USB on the Nokia 6720 Classic device??

I had the same problem with my 6720 when I connected it to my HP laptop via USB to download maps. It crashed my computer making all USB ports unusable until I restarted the computer again. I think it happened after I downloaded the necessary software upgrade. I had to eventually use bluetooth to transfer maps data to my phone. It worked without any hitches. Can someone at Nokia fix this problem with the USB?

WE have 2 Ipod classics and 1 IPod touch. One of the classics is not recognised by itunes library under devices and cannot be synchrinised with a playlist

We have 2 Ipod classics and 1 Ipod touch. One of the classics is not recognised by the itunes library and therfore canoot be synchonised with a playlist.

The second shuffle cannot be recognized by this computer ("USB Device Cannot be Recognized") so I don't think I'm able to reset it using that (it says "iPod is not recognized by iTunes, but is *visible in My Computer or in Device Manager* on a Windows PC, or in Apple System Profiler on a Mac.")
Like I said though, it works on other computers just fine and is visible so I don't quite understand what's up with this computer.
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I recently connected my new ipad to my itunes, but now itunes will not recognise my ipod classic, and 50gig of music has gone. ipad connects ok but no longer ipod which has been there for two years! help!!!

I recently connected my new ipad to my itunes, but now itunes will not recognise my ipod classic, and 50gig of music has gone. ipad connects ok but no longer ipod which has been there for two years! help!!!

What happens when the iPod is plugged in? anything? any errors?
Why is 50GB of music gone? All music should exist on the computer. Only a fool would rely on a single device which could easily be lost or stolen to store their content on.

Question regarding Classic and Advance table

Hi,
I have classic and advance table. I am populating with VO that brings 100 record. When i render page i see last record being displayed. How can i show my first record by defult on both tables?

By default the first record will be displayed, if you are seeing the last one instead, you probably did a vo.last() in the code.
Thanks
Tapash

Hi, I bought 2 songs off itunes. I have synced my classic and shuffle with no problems. The new songs show ok in my libary but when i view my iphone 5 in itunes these songs appear greyed out with a ring of dots to the left and will not sync to my iphone?

Hi, some of my songs appear greyed out with a ring of dots to the left in itunes when I view whats on my iphone 5. These songs will not sync to my phone but have synced to my classic and shuffle? Can anybody tell me why this is? Cheers

See this older thread for a few possible solutions.
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/3924425?tstart=30
B-rock

TS3048 Bluetooth and USB ports aren't working can't connect mouse or keyboard.

Bluetooth and USB ports aren't working, so am unable to use Imac past turning it on. There's no way to connect mouse or keyboard, it started right after a software update for Maverick (OS X bash Update 1.0 – OS X Mavericks), bluetooth symbol not showing in the task bar at all.

Hi SBrwn,
Thanks for visiting Apple Support Communities.
The symptom you're describing can be frustrating to troubleshoot as our options are limited. I do suggest resetting the System Management Controller (SMC) if you have not already. This step can help you regain use of USB and Bluetooth.
Follow these steps to reset the SMC on your iMac:
Resetting the SMC for Mac Pro, Intel-based iMac, Intel-based Mac mini, or Intel-based Xserve
Shut down the computer. [by holding down the power button]
Unplug the computer's power cord.
Wait fifteen seconds.
Attach the computer's power cord.
Wait five seconds, then press the power button to turn on the computer.
You can find these steps and more information at this link:
Intel-based Macs: Resetting the System Management Controller (SMC)
All the best,
Jeremy

I have an iPod Classic and the latest version of iTunes. I make all my purchases on my computer, but when I try to click the "add to" option and transfer the songs to my iPod, it doesn't work. How can I get my songs from my computer to my iPod?

I have an iPod Classic and the latest version of iTunes. I make all my purchases on my computer, but when I try to click the "add to" option and transfer the songs to my iPod, it doesn't work. How can I get my songs from my computer to my iPod?

See this excellent user tip from another forum member turingtest2 outlining the different methods and software available to help you copy content from your iPod back to your PC and into iTunes.
Recovering your iTunes library from your iPod or iOS device
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HT1476 My iPhone 4S will charge on a laptop but not from a wall plug. I have tried different boxes and different USB cords from the wall but none work. These boxes and USB cords work for other family members with iPhones. I'm stumped :/

My iPhone 4S will charge on a laptop but not from a wall plug. I have tried different boxes and different USB cords from the wall but none work. These boxes and USB cords work for other family members with iPhones and a USB cord that works from the laptop won't work from 3 or 4 different wall boxes that work for others. I'm stumped :/

Update: It seems as though the phone will charge if I plug it in and then turn it off. It will not charge while the phone is on. Also iTunes will not recognize it, so I can't sync or anything. I read somewhere that it could be a fuse somewhere?? Or maybe the dock connector. Where is the best place to get this repaired?

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